Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made
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I have seen this said by many posters many times...
I am 90% sure however you will be back in another thread soon.... this whole forum is like hotel California, it just sucks us back in (me too btw) - just like the game really in my experience.
I have to admit, I love this steamspy site. It's fascinating.
EVE Online: 60,437 players in the last two weeks. Average play time: 17:15. Median play time: 2:02. Largest spike: 65,096.
Elite: Dangerous: 65,104 players in the last two weeks. Average play time: 17:47. Median play time: 5:52. Largest spike: 79,907.
Proves nothing, of course. We have no idea how many players don't use the Steam to launch their games. Nor do we know how many players are playing on other platforms besides the PC.
EVE Online: 60,437 players in the last two weeks. Average play time: 17:15. Median play time: 2:02. Largest spike: 65,096.
Elite: Dangerous: 65,104 players in the last two weeks. Average play time: 17:47. Median play time: 5:52. Largest spike: 79,907.
Proves nothing, of course. We have no idea how many players don't use the Steam to launch their games. Nor do we know how many players are playing on other platforms besides the PC.
Well to be fair to Fdev anytime they add something to the game people on reddit and this forum crap the bed, Doesn't matter if its good or bad people react as if DB came into their house and crapped in their sink.
As for kids rides well Frontier made the Thargoids very hard to kill and what did people do?
It is pretty fascinating and it is useful to debunk the people that say there are only 2000 people playing the game in steam. They keep using the wrong stats.
This game was specifically developed with an OPTIONAL multiplayer mode and it won't ever change.
Goose4291
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Pretty much sums up why powerplay died and a lot of folk like myself turned our backs on it. Why you'd put a PvP interaction element into the game, then allow someone to bypass the risk of PvP to achieve a goal using that element boggles my mind.
Is that you Anakin?
look.... you want more PvP, and you want players to have over all control of the game... you are NOT wrong to want to play that kind of game
I want less PvP and I absolutely do NOT want players having control over other players in the game, beyond the competetive BGS which we have already... i am not wrong either.
my point is, when you get a group of people who feel the same it IS nice you can have a big discussion and feel you are all united. I have the same chats all of the time with my PvE playing mates.
but you have to accept - as do i - that some games are built around features we may or may not like.
improvements to the game for you, would KILL the game for me. it does not make you wrong for wanting them, it does not make me wrong either.. it is about buying the games which are built around features you like
and this is why Jockeys wall of text DOES matter despite you thinking it is irrelevant.
his wall of text lists all the reasons why i bought the game and it matters that FD stick to it.
Star Citizen is coming out and will be built far more around player agency, just like eve. I HATE EVE... but would never ask it to be changed, i just dont play it.,,, and you will not believe how gutted i was when starwars battlefront 1 (reboot) launched, what an abomination, they took a fab starwars game and reduced it down to a crappy arena shooter.
whilst i have backed Star Citizen, it was with trepidation i did so, but i have gone in with my eyes open and wont ask the game be gutted to make it more like a game i want (though there was meant to be a pvp slider when i backed).
if you have a round hole, buy a round stopper to plug it, dont buy a square one and demand the designers grind it down to suit you... hell at least dont demand their grind down their whole stock, even for those who DID order a square peg.
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The only multiplayer feature that can be abused is Powerplay, but the reason why it is unpopuler has nothing to do with that, it's just very boring and is basically the same CG's again and again and again. The BGS is about PvE or non-direct PvP, you cannot abuse the BGS in solo or private groups.
Do you know what's truly absurd and abusive? - telling folk that choose solo and PG, people that paid for ALL of Elite dangerous just as you did, that their influence on certain aspects of the game should be zero or nerfed because 'reasons'. It gets better, some of the folks that play solo do so due to poor internet connections, some of them were told to off to solo because 'youz ruining ma multiplayer experience bro' and what do they get when they do so? - oh yeah a 'by the way we now wanna take away your powerplay and BGS influence too'.
And all this because some players can't let go of their 'if only I could shoot them everything would be okay' comfort blanket, still ignoring the glaring facts off cross platform, time zones, instancing and the fact that you can't win a PVE war with lazors.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Powerplay is a fully fleshed out game feature - far from it. So, moot point.
I thought you were leaving?
Goose4291
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Speaking from the experience of someone who did powerplay quite extensively, I think you're wrong there old chap.
A lot of the PvP/Open-centric groups that sprang up around Powerplays inception got tired of it because of the reason detailed in that Reddit post.
And it's not going to change.
So either accept that or not, but stop moaning about it because you're just wasting everybody's time.
Just highlighting this fact. The comment was not made by me, but someone else in the comments section.
I like this post, but i fear it will get swallowed in in the biowaste some people are spilling out on this thread............rep sir!
I am just talking about my personal experience and what I see on the forums regarding it. For me it's just a grind fest with for zero gain. What will make it remove a lot of people engaging it in solo or private groups is to remove the powerplay items and the monetary rewards, but have it that if you are destroyed doing powerplay activities, the power pays for the rebuy.
Just completely remove all the PvE stuff from it, and it will likely become the domain of PvP groups.
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Lol, best thing in recent weeks:
Players: What are all these trade CGs to unlock anti-xeno weapons. We want combat CGs.
FDEV makes combat CGs.
Players: FDEV, come on man. What are these combat CGs.
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