I plan to still main EDH 3.8, now called Legacy. I am sure I want to explore and see all the sites that are in the old planet tech. I hope to enjoy it while it is still here, FDev will shut it down at some point, TBD by them and like this last communication, I will expect 6 days or less notice ... see you in the black commanders O7.
Elite: Dangerous Legacy League
- Thread starter Globusdiablo
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it would be fun if most of the players decided to all join Legacy....
I wouldn't get comfy
chances seem good that in about 6 months(closer to 2) this will also be Dark Mode, unplugged.
closer to 2 months would be a better guess, considering the whole console topic.
one way to look at it
Odyssey is finally separated and on its own servers.
no more double triple or delayed tick??
a functional BGS not affected by the missing or incorrect variables in Odyssey.
no more stupoid foot soldiers that somehow managed to become adults.
Damn, sounds good to me.
I wonder where Mobius is going...heh
I wouldn't get comfy
chances seem good that in about 6 months(closer to 2) this will also be Dark Mode, unplugged.
closer to 2 months would be a better guess, considering the whole console topic.
one way to look at it
Odyssey is finally separated and on its own servers.
no more double triple or delayed tick??
a functional BGS not affected by the missing or incorrect variables in Odyssey.
no more stupoid foot soldiers that somehow managed to become adults.
Damn, sounds good to me.
I wonder where Mobius is going...heh
I am pretty sure i read there is a "Horizon " version of Live mode. So Live will still be 2 version.
No. Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey will share the same mode.
precisely
the versions are not made clear in the Fdev post
3.8 = console and pc users that own odyssey 4.0 (at least the version you would buy if you already had ED and Horizons on pc)
pc users that own Odyssey4.0 have Horizons 3.8, not Horizons 4.0
if you only bought ED or Horizons and you want the Odyssey visuals, etc... but not foot content, not full blown Odyssey, then you buy Horizons 4.0
means Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey are the same thing except Horizons will have zero foot content
so for pc users that play 3.8 horizons, we get it turned into Legacy, then I guess we get a download that gives us Horizons 4.0
I think fdev should make these notes for everyone and put it on the first page of the thread for U14 so everyone can stop trying to guess.
I don't like to type guesses into a response. there is no reason anyone should be guessing.
Be CLEAR .
I am amazed that it is Thursday.
it feels like a Friday where fdev gives us bad news then walks away for the weekend.
if you are going to give out BAD NEWS, why not include ALL the details, what it will and what it won't affect.
ASSUME that NOT ONE person will Have any idea why or what you are going on about.
ASSUME that most of them have no idea what version of what on what device is being JAMMED UP! or even what version they have.
other than consoles know they got toasted. that was clear.
Pretty sure that half the player base getting jammed up is a surprise to almost all of them.
the versions are not made clear in the Fdev post
3.8 = console and pc users that own odyssey 4.0 (at least the version you would buy if you already had ED and Horizons on pc)
pc users that own Odyssey4.0 have Horizons 3.8, not Horizons 4.0
if you only bought ED or Horizons and you want the Odyssey visuals, etc... but not foot content, not full blown Odyssey, then you buy Horizons 4.0
means Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey are the same thing except Horizons will have zero foot content
so for pc users that play 3.8 horizons, we get it turned into Legacy, then I guess we get a download that gives us Horizons 4.0
I think fdev should make these notes for everyone and put it on the first page of the thread for U14 so everyone can stop trying to guess.
I don't like to type guesses into a response. there is no reason anyone should be guessing.
Be CLEAR .
I am amazed that it is Thursday.
it feels like a Friday where fdev gives us bad news then walks away for the weekend.
if you are going to give out BAD NEWS, why not include ALL the details, what it will and what it won't affect.
ASSUME that NOT ONE person will Have any idea why or what you are going on about.
ASSUME that most of them have no idea what version of what on what device is being JAMMED UP! or even what version they have.
other than consoles know they got toasted. that was clear.
Pretty sure that half the player base getting jammed up is a surprise to almost all of them.
Correct.
Up until now, if Odyssey players wanted to play 4.0 with their friends who didn't own the Odyssey upgrade then they had to use the min-ed-launcher to do so. Now, "Live mode" will give all players the option to launch in 4.0 Horizons as well as access to "Legacy" Horizons.
From the announcement
We understand that since we granted 4.0 access to all PC players, some Commanders have been using version 3.8 to play with friends who do not yet own Odyssey. With Update 14, Odyssey players will have the option to select either Horizons or Odyssey mode within Live Mode so that playing together remains possible.
I think you misinterpret what was said by FD on the announcement page:
"With Update 14, Odyssey players will have the option to select either Horizons or Odyssey mode within Live Mode so that playing together remains possible."
also they said " ... Legacy mode will be accessible from the launcher as a separate download from the Live game. "
So - Odyssey owners will have Horizons and Odyssey options in the "Live" part of the launcher - everyone will have Horizons 3.8 available via a separate "Legacy" download in the launcher.
There is no indication if there is a version of the current base game (Elite Dangerous in the current launcher) in anything.
This^^^
.... to what universe the base Elite will be attached to? Purely practical interest - what to do in case when one have stuck in geometry in Ody/H4.0 (live) or H3.8 (Legacy)?
Odyssey hammers a basic truth home. New isn't always better.
Horizons 3.8 is the superior game if you want to fly your own spaceship. End of story.
Now. What about that vanilla (no engineers) PvP group we talked about? That would fit perfectly in the Legacy League.
One way or another, we could make player organized CGs work... Ask the Bucky Ballers how they do it!Who needs a person when you could simply procgen the CGs?
I think getting a strong legacy community going would help minimize the negativity in the community and let everyone get back to having fun.
On the upside... If I read the dev post correctly, this means everyone will get two game saves for their account--one 4.+/Odyssey save and one legacy save since progress in one won't follow to the other mode anymore.
Do I have that right?
I think I misinterpret what Star Wanderer said, reading subsequent answers in this thread. I thought he was claiming there would be two versions of the live BGS, one for Horizons and one for Odyssey, which is not the case. There is one Live version, but Horizon and Odyssey clients still are not allowed to instance with each other. IIRC, of course.
The post on steam says:
"Every player will have a Legacy Commander profile created from their existing profile with separately tracked progress when Update 14 is released. Legacy mode will be accessible from the launcher as a separate download from the Live game.
Whilst there will be no new narrative content such as GalNet or Community Goals, you will still be able to affect the galaxy via the background simulation. Actions in Legacy Mode will not affect the Live game."
So, yeah... Looks like everyone gets two saves now. That's cool. I'm sure I'll use them all to some extent.
In legacy mode you can also affect the BGS, if you're into that sort of thing...
Just no more galnet or curated CG's in legacy mode.
Player organized CG's seem totally doable.
"Every player will have a Legacy Commander profile created from their existing profile with separately tracked progress when Update 14 is released. Legacy mode will be accessible from the launcher as a separate download from the Live game.
Whilst there will be no new narrative content such as GalNet or Community Goals, you will still be able to affect the galaxy via the background simulation. Actions in Legacy Mode will not affect the Live game."
So, yeah... Looks like everyone gets two saves now. That's cool. I'm sure I'll use them all to some extent.
In legacy mode you can also affect the BGS, if you're into that sort of thing...
Just no more galnet or curated CG's in legacy mode.
Player organized CG's seem totally doable.
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
Thank Fargod they gave us GOOD news then! Phew!
I do wonder what replacement they have planned with this update for the standard fix we're expected to use when getting stuck in crashloops in 4.0, of relogging to 3.8.
Now that i had some time to process, i kind of like Legacy / Live split.
On Live i could stay in the bubble doing Live Content. Aka Combat Character.
On Legacy i could explore the Galaxy with all the funky features that Odyssey removed. Aka Explorer Character.
Sounds like a Win - Win situation.
On Live i could stay in the bubble doing Live Content. Aka Combat Character.
On Legacy i could explore the Galaxy with all the funky features that Odyssey removed. Aka Explorer Character.
Sounds like a Win - Win situation.
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