Are you not role playing being a pilot in space?
Elite Dangerous no longer an MMO?
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Are you not role playing being a pilot in space?
seems like we getting into semantics a little bit, what MMO is and what not: Wiki Definition is as follows
I highlighted a couple parts there as it does not state it HAS to be. the second part, we have to see how the promised Wings is going to be.
Now, nowhere does it seem to say that all players have to be able to be all together in one space. it does allow a large number of players to be on simultaneously, in the same universe after all, solo, groups and open all share the same universe and everyone affects it, albeit in a minuscule way. If you look at some threads on here, people claim to have started expansions into neighboring systems by supporting factions. so looking at it this way, i think the label still fits.
And now for a different Definition, this time lifted form Urban Dictionary:
again, note the usually in there, because ED has it just backwards from that. you in essence pay for the download but have no recurring monthly fee.
so we can go around the table with this, my point is, MMO is a bit a subjective term as different people interpret it differently, if taken to court it would be the question how a judge would define it unless somewhere it has a very fixed definition in a law somewhere.
as it has been mentioned above too, WoT is defined as an MMO, other then over the sight of your cannon you don't see or meet other people and even then, its a matchmaker that puts you in a room with 29 other people, or less.
i think a big unknown right now is how Wings will change this game, what it will bring to the table. after all, this game has not even been out a month. i for one, personally, have fun with it. i do play open and i run into other players fairly often now that i returned to the core systems a bit more from the frontier i was in. most people don't even talk when you give them a friendly hail. guess they out there looking for giant space rats
Edit: you guys want going to make me want to fire up WoT again, lol
I highlighted a couple parts there as it does not state it HAS to be. the second part, we have to see how the promised Wings is going to be.
Now, nowhere does it seem to say that all players have to be able to be all together in one space. it does allow a large number of players to be on simultaneously, in the same universe after all, solo, groups and open all share the same universe and everyone affects it, albeit in a minuscule way. If you look at some threads on here, people claim to have started expansions into neighboring systems by supporting factions. so looking at it this way, i think the label still fits.
And now for a different Definition, this time lifted form Urban Dictionary:
again, note the usually in there, because ED has it just backwards from that. you in essence pay for the download but have no recurring monthly fee.
so we can go around the table with this, my point is, MMO is a bit a subjective term as different people interpret it differently, if taken to court it would be the question how a judge would define it unless somewhere it has a very fixed definition in a law somewhere.
as it has been mentioned above too, WoT is defined as an MMO, other then over the sight of your cannon you don't see or meet other people and even then, its a matchmaker that puts you in a room with 29 other people, or less.
i think a big unknown right now is how Wings will change this game, what it will bring to the table. after all, this game has not even been out a month. i for one, personally, have fun with it. i do play open and i run into other players fairly often now that i returned to the core systems a bit more from the frontier i was in. most people don't even talk when you give them a friendly hail. guess they out there looking for giant space rats
Edit: you guys want going to make me want to fire up WoT again, lol
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It does? Please provide it. Be precise and don't forget to cite your sources, please
I said back in 2011 when they launched it that calling it an MMO was pure . Same is true of War Thunder. They are no different games than Battlefield, except with tanks.
Hell, even LoL is considered MMO
exact.
I am not a fan of the industry calling single player games with a persitent online option an 'MMO' even though technically they maybe right
I hope so as I paid for the expansion pass!
Same here. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I really think the only way we won't get planetary landings is if Frontier collapses this year.
The real question here is why the people complaining didn't do some research into what this game was before they bought it.
According to whom? I only hear that type of game referred to as MOBA.
Wasn't ever an MMO. It's a "shared world" like Desinty or many other games these days.
The MMO thing is not really worthwhile for companies to do. The ROI and value add for players doesn't typically justify it. EVE Online may be one of the only examples where an MMO actually shines with its epic battles. Most others never reach that level and so a game designed in that traditional MMO sense is a complete waste of money and time that only leads to stability issues for players anyway.
Elite will let you interact with an unlimited number of players - hence providing that MMO-like experience - but it is sharded and limited to be more economical. However, the other players in these chunks even, can greatly affect your gameplay and world in the game.
The MMO thing is not really worthwhile for companies to do. The ROI and value add for players doesn't typically justify it. EVE Online may be one of the only examples where an MMO actually shines with its epic battles. Most others never reach that level and so a game designed in that traditional MMO sense is a complete waste of money and time that only leads to stability issues for players anyway.
Elite will let you interact with an unlimited number of players - hence providing that MMO-like experience - but it is sharded and limited to be more economical. However, the other players in these chunks even, can greatly affect your gameplay and world in the game.
I did and the research said MMO, what is so hard to understand about that, its pinnacle to the entire post. Did you read or just skim? Sigh. Next lets go into conformity because that wasn't at issue, but why not?
Please. Victim blaming doesn't work in cases of false advertising.
Because it's not false advertising and that's my point.
Giant persistent galaxy with thousand of players that's online and people are saying its not MMOy enough. What a joke.
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That is literally the definition of the big M in MMO. One world, meet complete strangers and interact with them.
Black Drake's definition clearly goes that direction as well
There's been all types of payment methods so far when it comes to MMOs. Buy the box, pay a fee, box is free but there's a fee, Box costs money but no fee (like ED does it) and even completely F2P with just microtransactions.
One might be cynical enough to call the pay box + fee games that went F2P later the same business model that ED uses
So you saw MMO and was like Oh must have, without actually doing more research to find out more about the game. I mean it is technically an MMO. Just because it does not conform to YOUR (a nobody whose opinions matters to absolutely no one but themselves) idea of what a MMO should be does not mean it is not one.
The answer is actually no. By that logic, call of duty is considered an MMO.
