Elite Dangerous no longer an MMO?

Yes, they have heeded my advice on legal grounds it would seem.
Unfortunately for them, that will only affect future says, not pre sales or sales upto the date of change.
" The Internet Never Forgets "
I still fully stand by my words that software developers must be held responsible for false advertising of products.
Unfortunately FD, this is only a bandaid on a severed arm.
Let's hope you make some drastic game improvements quickly.

You won the good fight, man. I can't believe they almost got away with it. You are a champion. A true hero. What it will bring to the game is immeasurable.
 
You don't have that opportunity. You will be randomly matched, meaning some people will never be matched. In an MMO, every single player on that shard exist together in one world.

The definition of massive can be gained from looking at games that are MMO's and games that are not.

calm down. It is clearly an MMO. Stop trying to change the definition of what it is to fit your agenda...
 

Robert Maynard

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You don't have that opportunity. You will be randomly matched, meaning some people will never be matched. In an MMO, every single player on that shard exist together in one world.

The definition of massive can be gained from looking at games that are MMO's and games that are not.

Therefore, in E: D, a player in open has a chance to meet every other player in open whereas, in a sharded game, there is no chance whatsoever of a player on one shard meeting a player on another.

That last seems to be a circular definition.
 
http://www.oed.com/ is the site for the OED.

You posted a link to a totally different site and claimed it was the OED. Just because it says Oxford Dictionaries doesn't make it the OED any more than the Federal Reserve is a Government Agency just because it says Federal.

If you guys have to bend the truth to support your argument then I humbly suggest it is time to rethink your argument.

And if you look down in the bottom right corner of the oed.com site.. in the More from Oxford box... first link...

oxforddictionaries.com is the free online reference version ::struck to remove confusion:: (both from Oxford Universities Press) You just don't get the "premium content" you receive from the paid version at oed.com
 
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Just enjoy the game for what it currently is or stop playing it until they fix whatever problem you have with it.

For any sane people out there in forum land, don't worry, new release game forums are always like this!
 
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http://www.oed.com/ is the site for the OED.

You posted a link to a totally different site and claimed it was the OED. Just because it says Oxford Dictionaries doesn't make it the OED any more than the Federal Reserve is a Government Agency just because it says Federal.

If you guys have to bend the truth to support your argument then I humbly suggest it is time to rethink your argument.

My apologies; I didn't spot this. That said, as the only response I've had yet, it remains the best for now. Again, please provide a more authoritative alternative if you disagree.
 
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The Correct term should have been "Massivley Multiplayer Solo Group Online" MMSGO

Yes im being a troll
There is a legal term called " perception of value ".
If enough people have the same perception of value and purchase said product on these grounds, there is a legal case if those customers feel " cheated "
The perception of value was created when FD marketed ED as an MMO.
It doesn't matter what the literal term of MMO means, but more so the interpretation of MMO by those who purchased the product.
 
http://www.oed.com/ is the site for the OED.

You posted a link to a totally different site and claimed it was the OED. Just because it says Oxford Dictionaries doesn't make it the OED any more than the Federal Reserve is a Government Agency just because it says Federal.

If you guys have to bend the truth to support your argument then I humbly suggest it is time to rethink your argument.
His site is reached via the link you posted. I just did that, you can too. May want to look in the mirror and repeat your last sentence to yourself.
 
In an MMO, every single player on that shard exist together in one world.

If you mean here that they are in a single instance, that they can see each other if they are in the same place in the map, not necessarily. Many MMOs divide players across separate instances to deal with overcrowding. Among the ones I'm sure use some variant of this technique are Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Lord of the Rings Online, Star Trek Online, DC Universe Online, and even World of Warcraft. And I'm not even talking about instanced dungeons (or equivalent), but just about multiple instances of the overland map.

Of course, those games typically have a player limit far above 32 players in a single instance, so this instancing is not so common, nor so visible when it happens. But all those games do use instancing to reduce server load whenever needed.
 
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My apologies; I didn't spot this. That said, as the only response I've had yet, it remains the best for now. Again, please provide a more authoritative alternative if you disagree.

None needed, as Hussars pointed out above it is indeed a site by the same people so the error was mine.

That said, I still don't see how the definition cited applies to ED in it's current form. Unless you interpret it in it's loosest sense in that it is an online game that a lot of people can be playing at the same time though in no way together. If you are taking that interpretation then every online game is an MMO. So are we trying to suggest that Farmville is an MMO? I mean it is an online game and lots of people play it at the same time. Is that the interpretation you are taking?

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His site is reached via the link you posted. I just did that, you can too. May want to look in the mirror and repeat your last sentence to yourself.

There is a difference between bending the truth and not spotting small print. Wind your neck in.
 
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It seems like FD never advertised it was, but also it made no effort to stop others from doing it. Doing a search reveals just about everywhere calling it an MMO, including the Elite: Dangerous Wikipedia entry.

Actually, it was officially advertised as an MMO by DB in numerous vids on YT as well as on their website at least until end of 2014, as depicted below.

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When we done with this, in another 3-400 pages, can we start a new one called "ED is not a sandbox", that should run over a thousand pages
 
None needed, as Hussars pointed out above it is indeed a site by the same people so the error was mine.

That said, I still don't see how the definition cited applies to ED in it's current form. Unless you interpret it in it's loosest sense in that it is an online game that a lot of people can be playing at the same time though in no way together. If you are taking that interpretation then every online game is an MMO. So are we trying to suggest that Farmville is an MMO? I mean it is an online game and lots of people play it at the same time.

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There is a difference between bending the truth and not spotting small print. Wind your neck in.


Lol.. no harm no foul, we all do it at some point :D

Funny thing is.. I said the same thing first time I saw it linked >.<

The real difference between OED.com and the online reference is the detail level.. the OED proper only really deals with direct terms/phrases/words, where the online reference is a bit more "casual" in its content.

As for the FED reference (for those who don't catch the reference) The Federal Reserve System (FED) was put into place by the Federal Reserve Act (1913 I think - will have to go look it up) It established the Federal Reserve Bank for the US (the bank is a business where the FED itself is chaired by a board headed by a nominee from the US President (POTUS). So the "System" is a government agency, where the bank is not "technically". It makes sense to lawyers and most bankers I think, but to the rest of us.. just another example of an overly complex system that should have been a simple "stop screwing with people for fun and profit"

Of course, I'd be out of work if we couldn't screw with people for fun and profit!
 
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There is a difference between bending the truth and not spotting small print. Wind your neck in.
Not sure what that means and don't care much. Were I a mod, this thread would have reached an abrupt conclusion long ago for being the utter pile of steaming biowaste it is. It seems MMOG means whatever each individual wants it to, no documentable references allowed. What a circle jerk.
 

Mu77ley

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32 is not "very large". Keyword: simultaneous. An mmo needs at least hundreds, if not thousands of concurrent players. A proper mmo like WoW has thousands of people running around azeroth in one shard. Another proper mmo like Planetside also supports up to 2000 simultaneous players per continent. Even the first planetside had a limit of 400. Contrast the next most "massive" fps and you're looking at 64, maybe 128 players, which isn't that massive.

Massive alone may be vague but the scale required in this instance is clear. Context is important.

This just shows you fundamentally don't understand how the instancing works in Elite: Dangerous. They're dynamic instances which put players within visual range of each other together temporarily so they can interact. The only time this is limiting player interaction is if there are more than 32 players within ~10km of each other, which would be damn busy anyway.

The whole player population is playing at the same time in the same game world, hence it's an MMO.
 
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