Elite Dangerous: Odyssey - Background Simulation Balancing

[Ian Doncaster]

we won a war and dominated a system, suddenly the situation returned to a pre-war state..what is this ??????

There seems to be a bug at the moment where control wars don't result in a change of ownership, or possibly get the change in ownership applied the wrong way.

Elections seem to work fine, and non-control wars seem to be working okay.

It's a bit weird.

 

[keelerad]

There is a confimed issue on the issue tracker that you can upvote here https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/35912

If enough of us up vote the issue maybe they might admit to the problem

It's not that Odyssey has skewed the result, the result was as we expected, the game says we won, it's that the BGS is not applying the correct change of ownerships based on the result

 

[danteuk]

Yep, that's what happens during a Beta - to be expected.

 

[keelerad]

Wouldn't be such an issue in a beta, the bugs could be worked out and fixed before release, but this is the real release and effects the core game, not just Odyssey

 

[MarcusKross]

Aaaand they broke the BGS too right?

sigh

 

[keelerad]

All we can do is get as many players as possible to vote for https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/35912 and hopefully they might notice that its not just balancing Odyssey changes that are required, its working out what they changed that broke the resolution of change of system ownership as a result of a war against the controlling faction

 

[Angry Fish Smell]

Given the context I have an exceptionally strong suspicion that the bug in 35912 is not a bug per se, it's an emergency tourniqet tied onto the BGS to prevent systems and assets from changing hands until they've figured out how to deal with the underlying issues that were resulting in "some factions" (mostly anarchies, but given how Dark Wheel in Shinrarta Dezhra was looking it's obvious there's more factors than just "being an anarchy" involved) being tanked excessively since Odyssey's launch. I also suspect that since by their own admission they've duplicated the BGS across Horizons/Odyssey and appear to have "something" going on trying to resolve it (in stutters and gasps) into one unified BGS after each tick, attempts to fix the underlying issue are both A. going to be exponentially more complicated to enact, and B. are likely to result in a state where doing a "BGS rollback" is effectively impossible (or, at least, exponentially more complicated), thus the frozen-asset interim state we seem to find ourselves in in the meantime.

Short version is I wouldn't make any plans to spend time in a CZ any time in the next couple of weeks, at least, if you're expecting any effort spent there to actually affect anything. Shame those engineer unlocks are still broken, now that I've got all this extra time on my hands...

 

[keelerad]

I really hope they didn't do that !

Its not that doing it is inherantly bad, but doing it without telling the Players that it is what they intend to do and hence they should avoid spending hours and hours trying to arrange a BGS system takeover when they have disabled it, is what I would have a problem with.

Its the lack of communnication that makes these things worse

• Are the devs actually aware that BGS wars are failing? If so say so
• Have they done something to temporarily halt system takeovers? If so say so
• Once they belive its all back to normal release an announcement saying so

Then we can go and find something else to do rather than beating our heads against an immovable BGS and come back to it when they say its good to go

Dav Stott are you listening ?

 

[Tino1208]

We recently took control of a system post conflict...not.

Being a PS4 PG and unable to counter any Odyssey BGS efforts we rather hoped that the new outposts (invisible to us) would not hamstring our efforts too much. This concern has fallen by the wayside now that we know we cant even win a war and gain control of a system; it appears the losing faction continues to get the benefit of any bounty hunting and explo data, another kick in the nuts.

 

[Quatchkopf]

Our squadron has been lowering and raising influence to take control of all stations in a system. Before the recent expansion with a lot of effort 1 person could raise the influence 5 percentage points. Now, post patch, 2 people working an entire day could only raise the system 2.3 points. Last night and today having +3 inf at lowest and multiple +5's the system went up zero points and the computer squadron that nobody is working on went up 2 percent. BGS is not working and for now I quit working on it. Let me know when it's fixed please. By the way, I don't have the new expansion yet, still playing Horizons and it's broken.