Elite Dangerous Update 7 Progress

[Winterwalker]

And Dr Ross is leaving.....

??

 

[Nepeta Uchiha]

Another update, they already have me up to the top of the crown, again you have to reprogram the hotas keys in Horizont, because they do not solve the one that every time they make an update, they erase the programming of the controls.

It's not hard to back up your bindings.....

 

[LeoBartlet]

??

The awesome Dr Kay Ross is moving on from Elite & Frontier onto a stage of their life :)

Source: https://twitter.com/drkayross/status/1439930852335656961 Source: https://twitter.com/drkayross/status/1439931196885057539

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[shadowwar]

I for one hope the CRASH TO DESKTOP will stop. It is game breaking for me.

 

[Tibrogargan]

It's not hard to back up your bindings.....

Because after releasing two major expansions and £100 million in revenue, backing up game settings manually is to be expected.

 

[styles784]

I for one hope the CRASH TO DESKTOP will stop. It is game breaking for me.

Which one? Do you play in open?

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Would be nice to have a timescale for that, I seem to remember that the team were once working on Odyssey for consoles, and that didn't happen....

Yet.

Would be nice to have a timescale for that, I seem to remember that the team were once working on Odyssey for consoles, and that didn't happen....

Timescale for what, sorry?
Console are getting a Horizons QOL update scheduled for tomorrow, if that helps.

 

[sallymorganmoore]

You said you'll delay a medium sized patch because of a single new bug. Why not just hotfix it?
It seems like you are giving us half the reasons only or just being lazy. I think it is the former but it doesn't look nice after all the promises. Hence people are asking you questions you don't want to be raised.

Who said it was a 'Medium Sized patch', sorry?
Also you need to have a thorough understanding of how hotfixes and release management works to plan what goes out most efficiently and how. It was just very much more efficient and safe with testing to do it this way.

No offence but speaking to you as a human and not just a CM at Frontier, the misconception there of us being lazy too also doesn't make me want to go into massive details and length to support queries as hard as I am doing either, to be honest, but I'll keep trying.

Whatever information we have, you can darn well have it. We WANT to give it to you. If we don't have it, I can keep writing in here that we don't until we do but that'd be really exhausting for you as much as me.

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Thanks to consider it.

And... in that case, feel free to take on some of those (shamelessly listing my issues, feel free to come back to me to ask for more details, several of them affect EDH too, the criticality of each is off course in the eye of the beholder) on your waist too (never thought I will tell that to a woman...):

Issues tracker:

• Do not expire issue reports - a long time doesn't mean it is invalid
• Issue tracker: Make the mandatory Hardware info auto-fill from your account

Missions:

• Commodities delivered to missions are still counted as "to be delivered" instead of "delivered"
• No easy way to see which mission is shared in the completed missions area
• The mission depot does not show if an accepted mission is a team mission (or high threat)
• Wrong display in shared mission (5 bugs in one panel)
• Please add the leg-missions to the ship mission board (and vice versa)

Fleet Carriers:

• Back button doesn't work in the Tritium Depot
• The name of the FC written on the side of the FC is nearly not visible
• FC buy/sell order setup should work progressively like the commodity buy/sell
• FC commodities management menu broken
• FC buy orders are counted in FC jumps as weight, even if they are not fulfilled
• Fleet carriers: a tariff symbol is wrongly displayed for some services (e.g. shipyard, outfitting, ...) even if a tariff of 0 is set.
• There needs to be a way to see if Cmdrs are currently docked on a FC
• FC-layout can not be changed back to the default
• Concourse module for FC with vista genomics, a bar, and APEX shuttles
• Colour saturation going way off than normal after jumping a lot with a FC
• Carrier cooldown not shown after cancelling a jump
• Selecting a non-system bookmark in FC jumps should select the nearest body for the destination

Ship related:

• The autodock doesn't take care if the landing pad has finished rotating or not
• (Someone reported as duplicated? What's the issue number of that? - Unshielded T9s / Cutters get damage from autodock/autolaunch)
• Lighting: windows at a station flicker every second
• (by someone else, wanted to report the same) - Buying a commodity doesn't update the ship-inventory
• Sometimes the target lock switches to something else when entering SC
• It should be possible to cancel a (auto)launch while the landing pad is still moving into position
• System map should have the night/day-equator follow in-game reality
• Commodity buy/sell buttons should be disabled when they reach 0/max
• Starmap in Horizons is more colourful (blue, yellow, white, red-ish stars) in EDH than in EDO
• If no shield is installed, the shield-indicator is flashing like an existing shield is down
• DSS scans don't have enough contrast
• (by someone else, wanted to report the same) - "Apply filter to route" in galaxy map is cleared after each use of map
• After a FC jump, the in-ship UI (refuel/...) does not react
• GalMap search: exact match on enter-key should select the exact match (like in Horizons)
• Allow to enable night vision in an apex shuttle

On-foot:

• Cost of suits too high compared to cost of ships
• Selling a suit / weapon should make it available for buy (to myself and everyone else)
• Please make the concourse change in decoration when there is a public holiday

Odyssey generic:

• claims/bounties/... much harder/slower to cash-in than in Horizons
• No way to see which genomics stuff you scanned on which body
• Station UI is inconsistent compared to FC UI

Keybindings:

• options menu: it should be possible to set presets globally, instead of only per sub-category
• add UI to create own presets
• Remember the state in the game control menu
• More than 2 keys per function/control please
• Please add a keybinding to activate supercruise assist for the currently selected target

And last but not least: some virtual flowers for your work here. Much appreciated!

I .....
gulps. Those virtual flowers will absolutely help with this list! Thank you very much!
Seriously though, that must have taken you ages. I'll keep them safe and let's see.

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Thankyou for your update @sallymorganmoore, that is an excelent comunication, we know what the delay is and why, it makes sense and clearly needs to be done.
regards Wescott.

Thanks Wescott!! Not long now, phew!

 

[Cweord]

Who said it was a 'Medium Sized patch', sorry?
Also you need to have a thorough understanding of how hotfixes and release management works to plan what goes out most efficiently and how. It was just very much more efficient and safe with testing to do it this way.

No offence but speaking to you as a human and not just a CM at Frontier, the misconception there of us being lazy too also doesn't make me want to go into massive details and length to support queries as hard as I am doing either, to be honest, but I'll keep trying.

Whatever information we have, you can darn well have it. We WANT to give it to you. If we don't have it, I can keep writing in here that we don't until we do but that'd be really exhausting for you as much as me.

Just for the record, most of us don't think you are being lazy, and apreciate the time and effort you put in to communicating with us.

 

[sallymorganmoore]

At the very least, and before you finally stamp "expired" on the issue tracker, this thing needs to be moderated (and sometimes overruled!) by human intelligence. I'm sorry, but the only one who seems suitable for this task at the moment is you, Sally.

Btw, I still have far too many CTDs, especially when plotting routes for Apex (about one in 3 attempts). Is this somehow on the radar in-house? Look at my latest crash reports...

Here's my 2c of coding brilliance:

IF CTD = TRUE
then CTD = FALSE

Gosh, if I had to moderate the issue tracker then I'd absolutely have to wave goodbye to the rest of the CM role at this point, and I'd miss it very much.

So sorry to hear about the CTDs too. Will get your account combed through for those logs.

 

[netchild]

I .....
gulps. Those virtual flowers will absolutely help with this list! Thank you very much!
Seriously though, that must have taken you ages. I'll keep them safe and let's see.

As it takes time to fill the issue reports, I first collected the bugs, and then it took 2h to fill out the forms. So if you need someone to come up with some points about improving the issue tracker...
And to be honest, there are more bugs I could fill now, but why should I if they move into the expired state after a while... (just a soft little nudge between the lines... at some point I will file them ... when I have a bunch more).

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Just for the record, most of us don't think you are being lazy, and apreciate the time and effort you put in to communicating with us.

Thoughtful of you to say o7
Sorry but with the number of hours we pull, the sweat we dab and everything it takes to pedal this machine...those kinds of assumptions don't help my legs go faster. They do their best to make them slower, if anything, so let's not do that and keep going.

 

[varonica]

Just for the record, most of us don't think you are being lazy, and apreciate the time and effort you put in to communicating with us.

Same here, I appreciate everything you have done so far, keep up the good work and don't let it get you down, there will always be people who focus on the negative side of anything!

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Same here, I appreciate everything you have done so far, keep up the good work and don't let it get you down, there will always be people who focus on the negative side of anything!

These thoughts from you both are like power-ups.

I absolutely can sympathise and do with many of our Commanders who have felt let down in ways, but allow me the energy and will to help you a bit in-between with some "constructive...ness" from you in return now and then (like the 90% of you do, thank you!<3).

Thanks for sharing your thoughts in return again anyway, super star.

Right...huge day ahead! Head down, let's go!

 

[Rubbernuke]

squints at clock

At least have a nice cup of tea Sally- its a bit early for the forums

 

[Arioch]

I’d also like to give my thanks to Sally for all the obvious hard work she’s putting in and what I imagine is a lot of not obvious hard work that we players don’t see

Also I’d like to give thumb-guns to the devs - considering VR wasn’t originally going to be supported for Odyssey, it is still getting a bit of love in the Updates which is very heartening to me. Shameless plug to the thread I’ve been maintaining since EDO released:

Odyssey VR specific bug reports - please contribute!

All VR related issue reports since Odyssey went live are collected below. Please add confirmations on the reports that need it and add votes as you see fit. One of the Top 20 issues (FSS Orbit Lines) had this said about it in a Dev update: “Currently this is not possible due to how the camera...

forums.frontier.co.uk

Any fellow goggle-heads who have spare votes, please have a look and click-click them into the Top 20

 

[sallymorganmoore]

squints at clock

At least have a nice cup of tea Sally- its a bit early for the forums

The pot is bubblingggggg as my reward, I'm excited to say o7

 

[sallymorganmoore]

I’d also like to give my thanks to Sally for all the obvious hard work she’s putting in and what I imagine is a lot of not obvious hard work that we players don’t see

Also I’d like to give thumb-guns to the devs - considering VR wasn’t originally going to be supported for Odyssey, it is still getting a bit of love in the Updates which is very heartening to me. Shameless plug to the thread I’ve been maintaining since EDO released:

Odyssey VR specific bug reports - please contribute!

All VR related issue reports since Odyssey went live are collected below. Please add confirmations on the reports that need it and add votes as you see fit. One of the Top 20 issues (FSS Orbit Lines) had this said about it in a Dev update: “Currently this is not possible due to how the camera...

forums.frontier.co.uk

Any fellow goggle-heads who have spare votes, please have a look and click-click them into the Top 20

Yeah! Like I just wanna reiterate that yes, we did state there would be no additional development for strictly VR features and such in Odyssey BUT that's not to say we aren't able to address issues present and haunting the current level of VR available in Odyssey.

We'll do what we can with making sure what came with Odyssey still functions as best possible if you face bugs with it o7