Elite Shipyard
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As soon as someone works out the formula to calculate that, sure. I'd also love to add something about how long weapons can be fired before the distributor's capacitor is empty, but again, I don't think anyone has figured out the math yet.
Hi taleden,
Please see the following collection of Dev interactions. They explain that earlier estimations of shield strength (maybe those incorporated into this tool) are incorrect, and explain how they can calculated. Essentially, there was a hidden parameter (that small guns under-perform against big targets)*, which gave a false impression of complexity and in actuality, true shield strength has a more simplified equation.
When hull mass equals minimum, optimal or max shield mass rating, the shields have 0.5-, 1.0- or 1.5-fold strength. Not sure which shield letter rating those three numbers apply to but the magnitude of those numbers varies across the shield letter ratings.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=89770&page=10&p=1592018&viewfull=1#post1592018
I imagine that thread will update in time as this new info is utilised.
Regards,
Sparkie
Edit: *Which indicates that whilst stated DPS for larger classes of weapons doesn't particularly increase much, they will be more effective in practice unless shooting relatively smaller ships.
Please see the following collection of Dev interactions. They explain that earlier estimations of shield strength (maybe those incorporated into this tool) are incorrect, and explain how they can calculated. Essentially, there was a hidden parameter (that small guns under-perform against big targets)*, which gave a false impression of complexity and in actuality, true shield strength has a more simplified equation.
When hull mass equals minimum, optimal or max shield mass rating, the shields have 0.5-, 1.0- or 1.5-fold strength. Not sure which shield letter rating those three numbers apply to but the magnitude of those numbers varies across the shield letter ratings.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=89770&page=10&p=1592018&viewfull=1#post1592018
I imagine that thread will update in time as this new info is utilised.
Regards,
Sparkie
Edit: *Which indicates that whilst stated DPS for larger classes of weapons doesn't particularly increase much, they will be more effective in practice unless shooting relatively smaller ships.
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Thanks for the pointer -- I just posted in one of the threads where Mike Evans is talking about it, asking if he'd be willing to just give us the correct formula since it sounds like they're going to make the result visible in-game anyway. He might decline, but it's worth a shot.
At any rate, I wasn't actually involved in any of the testing that led to the current formula, so I don't know what ships and weapons they used or anything about their methodology. It sounds like that team has some more work to do given the new information, so if and when they come up with a better formula, I'll be happy to plug it in.
Just found the your shipyard tool, after seeing a mention in another thread. My planning requirements salute you, and have told me to get my wallet out. Poor wallet...
(On the immediate upside: if I want to Stick it to the Man, and use my own fuel scoop, rather than buying fuel, I should either prepare for many hours in orbit around stars, or observe that my savings in fuel costs have been vastly outweighed by the cost of the fuel scoop itself...)
(On the immediate upside: if I want to Stick it to the Man, and use my own fuel scoop, rather than buying fuel, I should either prepare for many hours in orbit around stars, or observe that my savings in fuel costs have been vastly outweighed by the cost of the fuel scoop itself...)
I have a problem! Won't let me buy a new ship with 40t of rares in my hold!
Next time I find myself devoid of cargo I will have to try it as I would like a definitive answer to this one. It may help others as well.
This is an awesome tool mate... it's fun making my dream ship way out my price range but also invaluable for general planning and optimising.
Much REP! Nice one!
Ok, so ages back (or it seems to me 
) I queried the starting loadout of the Imperial Clipper. Specifically, which compartment the shields were in at purchase. Well, I've just bought a brand new Clipper specifically for the Buckyball Run, and it turns out the shields are in the size 6 compartment, not the size 7. The attached image has a few basic items upgraded before I remembered about the shields, but the shields location and size have not been modified from purchase and neither has the cargo rack in the size 7 compartment
) I queried the starting loadout of the Imperial Clipper. Specifically, which compartment the shields were in at purchase. Well, I've just bought a brand new Clipper specifically for the Buckyball Run, and it turns out the shields are in the size 6 compartment, not the size 7. The attached image has a few basic items upgraded before I remembered about the shields, but the shields location and size have not been modified from purchase and neither has the cargo rack in the size 7 compartment Ok, so ages back (or it seems to me
Awesome, thanks!
I'm assuming it doesn't come with a 4A Fuel Scoop, right? Was that slot empty originally or did you replace a cargo rack?
That's correct. I think it had a size 3 cargo rack in it, although I never made a note as I'd started outfitting before I remembered about this thread. Sorry
If you hover your mouse over the ship hull price, it will explain the difference. The place to look for the price of a default loadout (including all the E-rating gear it comes with in-game) is the bottom; the ship hull price is only part of that total purchase cost.
Finally got around to analyzing the site access logs; some interesting trivia:
- There have been about 2,500 unique visitors per day in the 16 days that the site has been online (and access logs enabled)
- Most visitors have been from the US, but GB is a very close second, and DE isn't too far behind, followed by FR, RU, CA and AU
- Most visitors use Windows (78%), but there are more visitors using Linux (9.9%) than iOS (7.4%) or Mac (3.8%); of course, most of those are probably Android smartphones
- There were 4 visits from someone on a Wii, and 2 from someone using Sun Solaris
- Most visitors use Chrome (just over 50%), and many use Firefox (30%); only a handful use Safari (8.3%), IE (5.7%) or Opera (2%)
- The GoogleBot issued ~270 requests, consuming ~25KB of bandwidth and referring ~1880 visitors to the site
- The BingBot issued ~3400 requests, consuming ~156MB of bandwidth and referring only ~30 visitors to the site (seriously, f--- you, bingbot)
- The top referrer is a German forum, and a Russian forum is a close second
No way, have to be a reverse proxy thing! lol....Sun Solaris should be dead by now!!
Just block the cr4ppy thing! Crazy difference between Bing and Google, just shows who knows what they're doing with search engines....
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Another (probably easy suggestion): a common trick is to de-prioritise the cargo hatch so as to accomodate modules whose total power usage exceeds that of the power plant.
Presumably the power consumed by the cargo hatch is already used in computing totals on the site -- would it be possible to add a fixed entry whose only use is the checkbox that would allow us to untick it and so calculate alternative power totals (e.g., hardpoints out)?
Thanks again for a great tool!
Presumably the power consumed by the cargo hatch is already used in computing totals on the site -- would it be possible to add a fixed entry whose only use is the checkbox that would allow us to untick it and so calculate alternative power totals (e.g., hardpoints out)?
Thanks again for a great tool!
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