"The chief negotiator in Brussels, Michel Barnier, is too aware that a brutal divorce would have very damaging economic consequences. For the UK, but also for the rest of the EU". This is clear for everyone
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Yep.
But he also knows that the effects of yielding any of the basics the EU Guaranteed would be even more damaging.
So it wont matter.
No one really knows what will happen, there is a lot of fearmongering floating around, I will just lean back and see how it goes.
Getting out is a good thing, what will happen is up to the politicians in charge, and how good they are to explore the possibilities.
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First thirteen seconds are relevant. ^^
As a huge fan of the Alan Moore comic, I've never actually watched this film, but after seeing the Watchmen which was not too bad, I am tempted. Will it really annoy me?
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They will find compromises it is obligatory. Fortunately they are less extremist than you
The Brexit arguments are wishful thinking, nostalgia for a glorious time that never was, and sometimes nationalism. What you've done here is just added your own wishful thinking to that.
When food prices rise at a time when over a quarter of the country don't have savings of more than £95, or when the UK can't source fissile material for scans and cancer treatments, or when international businesses walk away from Britain and it declines in science and technological progress, a mantra of "it'll be alright" will not provide food, medical supplies or jobs to people.
It'll be fine for those who caused this. Johnson or Rees-Mogg can easily afford baths of champagne, fly to the USA and get treatment, and make hundreds of thousands on after-dinner talks in South Korea and Qatar.
Not sure what the poor sods in tower blocs are going to do though.
Your usual catastrophism is so exaggerated that it really becomes a hilarious distraction
But we do know some things that will happen.
If the UK leaves the Single market then the trading environment with the EU will become worse.
If the UK leaves the customs union then movement of goods across the border will involve more paperwork, especially if we hard Brexit to WTO rules.
The EU is our largest and physically closest trading partner and a bit over 40% of our exports go to them.
Pointing these facts out is not fearmongering
Your usual catastrophism is so exaggerated that it really becomes a hilarious distraction
And as usual your complete lack of attention to reality shows that you're more devoted to your hatred of the EU than you are to human beings.
The NHS is already in crisis right now.
There is a burned out tower block with nearly a hundred dead people because of lack of funding right now.
There is a spike in inflation with a corresponding increase in food prices right now.
Big companies that pay huge amounts in tax are leaving or partially leaving right now.
There is a recruitment crisis and companies that are staying are struggling to find staff right now.
We have the most inept political class in UK history right now.
None of these things are conjecture. Explain how, under these circumstances, Brexit will do anything other than finish the country off. Please source your explanations with fact based arguments or expert opinion. And I'd love to hear it.
No hatred of EU personally ---- In Turkey at Istanbul, the experts said that 15000 homes would collapse in the event of an earthquake ...
In France it is worse concerning the taxes
In France it is the same thing in certain sectors of activity
In France food prices are exorbitant
In France, hospitals lack financial resources and humans resources. The Social security is constantly in deficit
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How many unemployed in the UK ? How many in France ?
United Kingdom Public Debt ? France ? Other countries in EU ?
United Kingdom Public Debt ? France ? Other countries in EU ?
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It is conjunctural and especially temporary
Grenfell is due to Brexit? That's pretty sick reasoning but not really unexpected.
NHS has been in crisis for years, yes, even under Labour governments.
Of course big companies may leave when there are European tax havens like The republic of Eire to move to, but have any actually gone yet?
British companies have been struggling to find skilled workers for years because successive Conservative AND Labour governments have been squeezing the education budget.
What is a "political class"? I feel your post is mere hatred at people who happen to be different to you and have different ideals, beliefs and dreams.
Please explain how Brexit will "finish the country off".
You mention hatred in your post, I see nothing but hatred for people who have different beliefs to you.
The tower block fire was entirely due to the way the UK government, in particular England, structured their building control system.
Did you know that builders can choose their building inspector? How much repeat business do you think a building inspector will get who makes thier client spend more time and money getting the construction right?
So no, the tower fire was not the fault of Brexit, although it is the result of the same "cut regulation" philosophy that drives Brexit.
But neither was it the fault of the EU as I have seen some anti Brexit press claim (specifically the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/08/grenfell-tower-fire-would-not-have-happened-without-eu-global/).
His article is riddled with technical errors and can even be disproved with nontechnical knowledge - If mandatory EU regulations that can it be avoided by Brexit were the cause how come no Welsh or Scottish (where building regulations are devolved) failed testing?
Yes France has relatively high unemployment.
The question should be "is French unemployment caused by EU membership"
After all , Germany and the UK have low unemployment.
Could you point to specific EU policies that cause high French unemployment?
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