Everything We Know about Engineers and Materials in Oddessey

[ViraVulpine]

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• Read the entire thing
• If you have additional information on an engineer, please include screenshot evidence. If its a new engineer not on this list, a full account of what they offer and the costs would be appreciated.
• If you have additional information on the location of resources, please include: a screenshot of where you found the item; a screenshot of the system info for the system you found it in; a screenshot of the settlement info for the settlement you found it in; the type of room and container you found it in.

I've been spending the past few days collating information on the engineers, how to unlock them, and how to get the materials for their upgrades. So, first off, the very basics:

1. Odyssey engineers have three stages, but these are different from the horizons engineers. First is finding out about them, second is doing a task for an invite from them. Unlike horizons engineers, as soon as you receive an invite, you are able to go to them for engineering. The third stage is then providing them a resource to be informed about a new engineer.
2. There are three types of engineers, Force, Dynamic, and Strategic. Force engineers provide damage focused mods, strategic provide capacity and range type mods, and dynamic provide more miscellaneous improvements.
3. The game now randomly generates surface sites on inhabited planets, located by the DSS. These operate like FSS signal sources, though they don't have visible timers, and are randomly generated periodically on the client. Additionally, these surface sites are a mix of already existing horizons content and odyssey content. While the horizons and odyssey sites annoyingly often share names, a site with a threat level will always be oddessey content, so these are what you should seek out for material gathering.
4. A huge variety of materials are easily available by looting settlements after doing a restore/reactivate mission at that site. The materials at disabled settlements are not marked as stolen, and restore/reactivate missions give you grade 3 access, so you have full access to the facility already. Assets are found in unlocked containers and scattered in the world; Goods are found in locked containers; Data is found from data terminals located on the walls in various locations in bases. The loot table for all 3 is determined by the type of room they are located in.

Now, onto how to unlock the engineers. As of writing (as far as I am aware), nobody has managed to unlock any of the engineers other than the public knowledge ones.

DOMINO GREEN​

1. Common Knowledge
2. Travel 100ly total in shuttles. (Trivial.)
3. Knowledge of new engineer: 5 Push. (Push is easily obtained from "irregular markers" surface POIs that have a threat level, but can also be found at crashed ships in low security systems.) This gives knowledge of Kit Fowler.

KIT FOWLER​

1. Learn of from Domino Green
2. Sell 10 Opinion Polls to bartenders. (Opinion polls are rarely found from dormitory data terminals. Tourist settlements tend to have a lot of that terminal type. With this reduced to 10, this is far more reasonable now.)
3. Knowledge of new engineer: Knowledge of new engineer: 5 Surveillance Equipment (fairly common good found in security) Gives Knowledge of Yarden Bond.

YARDEN BOND​

1. Learn of from Kit Fowler
2. Sell 8 Smear Campaign from bartenders. (As of Update 5 these have been showing up. I suspect they only spawn in anarchy faction controlled settlements. Testing pending. Try anarchy faction controlled tourist settlements, in the habitat data ports.)
3. End of Domino Green Line

HERO FERRARI​

1. Common knowledge
2. Complete 10 Ground Conflict Zones. (Self Explanitory. Working fine with latest update.)
3. Knowledge of new engineer: 15 Settlement Defense Plans. (These are extremely rare, found on command, security, and crashed skimmer data terminals The crashed skimmers can sometimes be found at irregular marker sites, which can be relog spammed. This took me four hours.)

WELLINGTON BECK​

1. Learn of from Hero Ferrari
2. Sell a total of 25 Multimedia Entertainment, Classic Entertainment, and Cat Media.
3. Knowledge of new engineer: 5 Insight Entertainment Suite. (Very common good located in almost all locations.) Gives knowledge of Uma Laszlo.

UMA LASZLO​

1. Learn of from Wellington Beck
2. Reaching Unfriendly reputation or lower with Sirius Corporation. (Good opportunity to Sirius of power regulators through support missions.)
3. End of Hero Ferrari Line

JUDE NAVARRO​

1. Common Knowledge
2. Complete 10 Restore/Reactivate missions. (This is time consuming but not difficult. Settlements being disabled is tied to BGS, if the system you are in has no missions available nearby, move to another system.)
3. Knowledge of new engineer: 5 Genetic Repair Meds. (These are a good rarely found in locked containers in medical and processing rooms.) Gives knowledge of Terra Velasquez.

TERRA VELASQUEZ​

1. Learn of from Jude Navarro
2. Complete 6 Covert Heist and Covert Theft Missions. (Patch 2 Fixed this.)
3. Knowledge of new engineers: 15 Financial Projections. (Yet another dormitory data type.)

ODIN GEIGER​

1. Learn of from Terra Velasquez
2. Sell a total of 20 Biological Sample, Employee Genetic Data, and Genetic Research to bartenders. (All found in agricultural labs.)
3. End of Jude Navarro Line

Next, we have what mods the known engineers offer (with in-game descriptions), and their material costs. Additional mods are known to exist from pre-upgraded items in shops, but I will not include them here until their engineer is known.


Mod list has been removed as they are now available on Inara.

Information on where to find materials for mods in proceeding post.

 

[ViraVulpine]

Assets:
Assets fall into three categories, chemical, tech, and circuits. Items within the same catergory can be freely traded between via the bartender. They spawn in settlements by catergory, for example, laboratories tend to have chemical assets, while manufacturing rooms tend to have tech, and circuits are most common from cutting open panels on crashed ships and SRVs. As they can be easily traded and obtained by the hundreds from restore missions, they are trivial to obtain for engineering and will not be listed here.
Notes:

• Relogging at a settlement will prevent any non-mission assets, goods, and data from spawning. You must despawn the settlement to reset this.

Goods:
Goods are obtained only from locked containers and lockers in settlements or from containers at crash sites. There are a few goods that are specifically obtained as mission items, or within containment units in settlements. As far as I'm aware, these are all only used for missions, with the notable exception of power regulators.
Power Regulators
Power regulators can be obtained in two ways: crashes and mission rewards. Destroyed SRVs, crashed ships, and one of the crashed satellite models will all have one or more large panels that can be cut open for some circuits and a slot containing a power regulator. This regulator has a very small chance of being functional. While regulators can be farmed using this, mission rewards are likely faster and more reliable, as the odds of a functional regulator are extremely low.
Notes:

• While reloging at settlements prevents other things from spawning, it does not prevent the circuits and power regulator inside SRVs from spawning.
• The regulator can be targeted while still inside from the SRV, allowing you to immediately check if its functional without opening the panel.

Schematics
Schematics are fairly common as mission rewards, which is nice as a reliable method of obtaining them. They can also be found in command center and power center lockers. Look for settlements with large seperate command buildings, as that layout has a large locker which will commonly have many schematics. Military settlements reliably have this building type. Weapon schematics specifically can also be obtained from irregular markers and the large cargo containers around crashed anacondas.
Weapon Schematics
An efficient method of farming specifically weapon schematics was found by Node. Under procurement can be found larceny missions which require you to go to a mission specific irregular markers site. At these sites, so long as you do not take the mission item, relogging will respawn the items in the other containers on site.

Spoiler: List of non-mission goods and where to find them

Biochemical Agent (Illegal)	Irregular Markers, Crashed Ships
Building Schematic	Command
Californium	Extraction
Cast Fossil	Extraction
Chemical Sample	Laboratory
Compact Library	Most Locations, common in Dormitory
Compression-Liquefied Gas	Power Plant, Industrial, Laboratory, Mission Reward
Deep Mantle Sample	Extraction
Degraded Power Regulator	See Power Regulator Section
G-Meds	Medical, Crashed Ships, Mission Reward
Genetic Repair Meds	Medical, Extraction (Processing Room)
Health Monitor	Medical, Crashed Ships, Mission Reward
Hush (Illegal)	Irregular Markers, Crashed Ships
Inertia Canister	Power Plant, Industrial, Laboratory, Agriculture
Infinity	Most Locations, common in Dormitory
Insight	Most Locations, common in Dormitory
Insight Data Bank	Most Locations, common in Dormitory
Ionized Gas	Power Plant, Industrial, Laboratory
Lazarus (Illegal)	Irregular Markers, Crashed Ships
Microbial Inhibitor	Laboratory, Agriculture
Nutritional Concentrate	Laboratory, Agriculture
Personal Computer	Most Locations, common in Dormitory
Personal Documents	Most Locations, common in Dormitory
Petrified Fossil	Extraction
Power Regulator	See Power Regulator Section
Push	Irregular Markers, Crashed Ships
Sales Records	Dormitory
Ship Schematic	Command, Power Plant
Suit Schematic	Command, Power Plant, Mission Reward
Surveillance Equipment	Security, Mission Reward
Synthetic Genome	Agriculture
Synthetic Pathogen (Illegal)	Irregular Markers, Crashed Ships
True Form Fossil	Extraction
Universal Translator	Most Locations, common in Dormitory
Vehicle Schematic	Command, Power Plant
Weapon Schematic	Command, Power Plant, Irregular Markers, Mission Reward

Data:
Data is by far the limiting factor on engineering mods. Many data materials are available from mission rewards in decent quantites, but several vital ones do not seem to be. Furthermore data terminals seem to have very large pools of possible data and are far less common than the massive quantity of lockers from which assets and goods are found, as well as taking time to download, sometimes several minutes.
Manufacturing Instructions
Manufacturing Instructions have been made far more common after the alpha. They can also now be found in a very wide variety of data ports. Known locations include: Industrial, Extraction, Crashed Satellite, Laboratory, and mission rewards. They can be farmed by finding a crashed satelite at an impact site POI, and relogging to reroll the data port, but it may be more efficient to get them from mission rewards as they are available in decent numbers from those.

Spoiler: List of non-mission data and where to find them

Accident Logs	Dormitory
Air Quality Reports	Dormitory, Power Plant, Mission Reward
Atmospheric Data	Crashed Satellite, Mission Reward
Audio Logs	?, Mission Reward
AX Combat Logs	Security
Ballistics Data	Security, Mission Reward
Biometric Data	Medical, Mission Reward
Blood Test Results	Medical
Campaign Plans	Dormitory
Cat Media	Dormitory
Census Data	Dormitory
Chemical Experiment Data	Laboratory, Mission Reward
Chemical Formulae	Laboratory
Chemical Inventory	Laboratory, Agriculture, Mission Reward
Chemical Patents	Laboratory
Classic Entertainment	Dormitory
Clinical Trial Records	Laboratory, Mission Reward
Cocktail Recipes	Dormitory
Combat Training Material	Security, Dormitory, Mission Reward
Combatant Performance	Security, Mission Reward
Conflict History	Security
Criminal Records	Security
Culinary Recipes	Dormitory
Digital Designs	Dormitory, Mission Reward
Duty Rota	Security, Power Plant
Employee Directory	Dormitory
Employee Expenses	Dormitory
Employee Genetic Data	Agriculture, Laboratory
Employment History	Dormitory
Evacuation Protocols	Dormitory, Mission Reward
Exploration Journals	Dormitory
Extraction Yield Data	Extraction, Mission Reward
Faction Associates	Dormitory
Faction Donator List	Dormitory
Faction News	Dormitory
Financial Projections	Dormitory
Gene Sequencing Data	Laboratory, Agriculture, Medical, Mission Reward
Genetic Research	Laboratory, Agriculture, Mission Reward
Geological Data	Extraction
Incident Logs	Security
Influence Projections	Dormitory
Internal Correspondence	Dormitory
Job Applications	Dormitory
Literary Fiction	Dormitory
Maintenance Logs	Power Plant, Agriculture, Mission Reward
Manufacturing Instructions	See Manufacturing Instructions Section
Medical Records	Medical
Meeting Minutes	Dormitory
Mineral Survey	Extraction, Mission Reward
Mining Analytics	Extraction, Mission Reward
Multimedia Entertainment	Dormitory
Network Access History	Dormitory
Next of Kin Records	Dormitory
NOC Data	?, Mission Reward
Operational Manual	Security, Laboratory, Medical Mission Reward
Opinion Polls	Dormitory
Patient History	Medical
Patrol Routes	Security, Mission Reward
Payroll Information	?
Personal Logs	Dormitory
Pharmaceutical Patents	Medical, Command
Photo Albums	Dormitory
Political Affiliations	Dormitory
Production Reports	Industrial, Mission Reward
Production Schedule	Industrial, Mission Reward
Purchase Records	Agriculture
Purchase Reports	Dormitory, Medical
Purchase Requests	Agriculture
Radioactivity Data	Power Plant, Mission Reward
Reactor Output Review	Power Plant, Mission Reward
Recycling Logs	Dormitory
Residential Directory	Dormitory
Risk Assessments	?, Mission Reward
Security Expenses	Security, Mission Reward
Seed Genealogy	Agriculture
Settlement Assault Plans	Command, Mission Reward
Settlement Defense Plans	Security, Command, Crashed Skimmer
Spectral Analysis Data	Laboratory, Mission Reward
Stellar Activity Logs	Crashed Satellite, Agriculture, Mission Reward
Tactical Plans	?, Mission Reward
Tax Records	Dormitory
Travel Permits	Dormitory
Troop Deployment Records	Security, Mission Reward
Union Membership	Power Plant
Virology Data	Laboratory
Visitor Register	Dormitory
Weapon Inventory	Security, Mission Reward
Weapon Test Data	Security, Mission Reward

This list is very incomplete, and there seems to be a large amount of overlap on where data can be found. Help expanding it would be appriciated.

 

[Nomad15A]

Absolutely fantastic work. Thanks

 

[Bdragon4]

I see a lot of these data items as mission rewards if you check the Mission Boards inside stations and settlements. Some of the items needed to unlock engineers too.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

PLEASE NOTE: STOLEN ITEMS ARE NOT VALID FOR ENGINEERING OR UPGRADES.

You sure about this? I have some stolen stuff that seems eligible. Can you upgrade in an Anarchy station maybe?

 

[ferus]

PLEASE NOTE: STOLEN ITEMS ARE NOT VALID FOR ENGINEERING OR UPGRADES.

I really hope this is not true because despite Piers' claim that items will only be marked as stolen when someone sees you pick them up it is not true.
I can be alone in a corridor taking some things and they are immediately flagged as stolen.
The same goes for crashed sites with a container. There is absolutely no one around and items are already flagged as stolen with a message that they will be discovered by a security scan.

If I wouldn't be able to use them then they are useless.

Here's the link:

Source: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1002691212?t=00h32m35s

 

[ViraVulpine]

PLEASE NOTE: STOLEN ITEMS ARE NOT VALID FOR ENGINEERING OR UPGRADES.

Admittedly I have not tested this since the alpha. It was an issue in the alpha, where they were displayed as availible resources in upgrades, but could not actually be used. If someone can provide evidence to the contrary, that would be helpful.

 

[Ydiss]

Settlement defence plans can be obtained rarely from Irregular Markers [Threat 2/3]. You can reset these.

They take 90s to download. Prepare for battle, you can see up to 6+6 scavs here.

Admittedly I have not tested this since the alpha. It was an issue in the alpha, where they were displayed as availible resources in upgrades, but could not actually be used. If someone can provide evidence to the contrary, that would be helpful.

This is old information.

I've upgraded with stolen stuff since Alpha 2. It was a bug.

 

[Miller-UK]

Prepare for battle, you can see up to 6+6 scavs here.

I equipped dumbfire rockets and nuke them from the air.

 

[Morwo]

Suit schematics and weapon schmatics are often found in locked lockers in PWR; reactor rooms too by me

 

[Kamaev-75]

And what about the tasks for Terra Velasquez will be repaired? and when? Thank you

 

[Tymis]

And what about the tasks for Terra Velasquez will be repaired? and when? Thank you

It has been reported as a bug, but the more people who report and upvote the bug the faster it'll get fixed. Just log into the issue tracker and search Terra Velasquez, then add your note and upvote.

 

[PharaohSteve]

Great post thank you, now I just need to figure out what types of sites have what type of facilities, labs and med rooms seem rare.

 

[devilronin]

havent read anything past the second post.

power regulators:easiest method(while mission items can still be used), cancel restore missions and pay 100k, keep mission item(they sell too)
suit schematic(havent found these on foot yet, just building and vehicle schemes...):salvage missions, cancel afteer you return to pay the 100k fine

someone on the forums said they were able to use mission items for upgrades, im still working toward g4 mav, so i cant prove this.

 

[Drelthar]

havent read anything past the second post.

power regulators:easiest method(while mission items can still be used), cancel restore missions and pay 100k, keep mission item(they sell too)
suit schematic(havent found these on foot yet, just building and vehicle schemes...):salvage missions, cancel afteer you return to pay the 100k fine

someone on the forums said they were able to use mission items for upgrades, im still working toward g4 mav, so i cant prove this.

I've used loads of mission items, and I think it's great and I really, really hope that Frontier don't "fix" what isn't broken here.

 

[Pyryck]

Just unlocked Hero Ferrari after 18 low and medium conflict zones in Hou Hsien followed by numerous log outs.

Hero's page shows only 5 (five) Settlement Defence Plans need to share knowledge of next Odyssey engineer as of 03 Jun 21.

p.s. I used 7 mission Power Regulators (along with 3 mission reward Power Regulators) to upgrade my Mav suit to G4 so yes, mission items can be used for upgrades.

 

[Penumbra]

Some of the ingredients for mods vary depending on which suit/weapon you are modifying. e.g. for laser weapons you might need Microcapacitors whereas for kinetic you'll need Weapon Components. The Wiki makes the same mistake of listing just one recipe for each mod.

 

[Comandante]

Assets:
<snip/>

• Relogging at a settlement will prevent any non-mission assets, goods, and data from spawning. You must despawn the settlement to reset this.

Could someone explain what "despawning" is, and how it is different to re-logging, please? As well as how to do it.

Great write up and information, +1 OP.

 

[smbell]

I believe that means you need to get far enough away from the settlement for the instance to reset. Probably quickest to go up to supercruise and back down.

 

[Drelthar]

This thread needs to be stickied somewhere possibly.