Exploration value formulae

khaos526

khaos526
MattG said:
1. I believe full system scan is 10k per body bonus. Not worth the time or effort to go out of your way to specifically get this, but a token gesture if you do it accidentally.

2. You probably want this. TLDR; map untagged terraformables/ELWs and maybe AW/WWs if you're only in it for the money. I'd say it's probably only worth mapping 1 body per system, or 1 binary pair because the gravity well effect slows you down too much - but that's just me.
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Yes full system from my 4 trips since the patch really netted me a small fraction in full system scan.

Terriformable WW's seem to be profitable so I'd go for those as well as ELW's and other terriformables. Then I'd hit the regular WW and Ammonia if they aren't too far away.

Though I always tend to scan ringed WW if not terriformable just for the tag. But yes, that's really about it that's needed. The rest is a big waste profit vs time wise...
 

MassGenocide

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Speaking of profitability, what about landing on planets and tagging geological signals such as geysers, fumaroles, spouts, etc...

Assuming I'm not the first commander to tag these items in a given sector of the galaxy is it worth to land the ship get out the SRV and scan it to get the confirmed tag and credits? Or is it just a novelty mechanic?
 

marx

marx
MassGenocide said:
Speaking of profitability, what about landing on planets and tagging geological signals such as geysers, fumaroles, spouts, etc...

Assuming I'm not the first commander to tag these items in a given sector of the galaxy is it worth to land the ship get out the SRV and scan it to get the confirmed tag and credits? Or is it just a novelty mechanic?
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You can't actually tag them, only the very first Codex entry in a given sector. For the first entry you find for yourself in the region, you get 50,000 Cr for the scan. If the target isn't interesting itself, then I wouldn't say it's worth the time.
 

MassGenocide

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Great. Thanks for the info. I just didn't want to return from my weeks out exploring to find out I could've been making bank by scanning these surface geo items.
 

Pro Cambarus

Pro Cambarus
I am trying to provide an estimate of scan values based on commanders log events to complement a larger software suite. I explored the various event subtypes associated with various ways of scanning.
To actually calculate values do I assume correctly that autoscan (proximity scanning without the need to target the respective body) and basic scan (scan with the planet targeted within a certain angle from ship/scanner heading and triggering when approaching the body to a range proportional to body mass and exceeds the autoscan range substantially) yields the same credit values?
The other question is whether equipping a DSS affects autoscan, basic and detailed scan (without surface mapping).

Your kind insights are highly appreciated.
 

iain666

iain666
All kinds of scanning that make the body show up in the system map are equivalent, whether you fly close or do it through the FSS interface. The DSS is for mapping, its presence or absence no longer changes the scan value.
 

Pro Cambarus

Pro Cambarus
Thank you most for your kind help. Just to make sure:would that imply that a honk (FSSDiscoveryScan, that makes all bodies to show up in the system map) provides equivalent values to the detailed scan/autoscan for bodies other than suns?
 

iain666

iain666
Ah, no. The system map being populated with other people's sold data doesn't count. If it's still able to be resolved in the FSS then you need to resolve it to get the credits. Seeing it because someone else already sold it is worth the same as not seeing it. You need to see the Scan journal, basically.
 

Eugee

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So I decided to finally go on a trip into the black (I've never been more than 5k out, to unlock Palin) and printed out the table a few pages back to pin on my wall.

Out of curiosity, I also plugged my first waypoint into Road 2 Riches, and it's showing High Metal Content bodies that are terraformable, which I don't see in the table. Is there an updated table that includes those?

EDIT - I'm dumb, I see it now.
 
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Guest 190653

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Hey how do I see if the planet has been Mapped or already discovered? I dont see it in the Journals
 

Maolagin

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Spansh said:
I released my update live today, mapping values and scan values should now be calculated for every body. Feel free to throw me any issues on https://spansh.co.uk/bodies
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Slightly off-topic question - for your R2R plotter you clearly filter out the inhabited systems that start out pre-explored, since there's no payout for scanning those. But how do you do that? I was just perusing the EDSM APIs and I don't see a flag indicating that status anywhere in the available results. Is there just a static list of these systems somewhere?
 

Maolagin

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CMDR XenoPyax said:
Hey how do I see if the planet has been Mapped or already discovered? I dont see it in the Journals
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You're right, the discovery tags on a body (or lack thereof) aren't output in the journals. I'm pretty sure the only way to see this is to look up the body in-game in the Galmap.
 

Guest 190653

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Maolagin said:
You're right, the discovery tags on a body (or lack thereof) aren't output in the journals. I'm pretty sure the only way to see this is to look up the body in-game in the Galmap.
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yes u only see it when you're selling the data so its only to give an estimate for the different options i guess so you can see the min and max u are getting out of the scans
 

iain666

iain666
CMDR XenoPyax said:
Hey how do I see if the planet has been Mapped or already discovered? I dont see it in the Journals
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You get an SAA Scan Complete journal when you map a body, there's no journal indication of the First Mapped tag. The First Discovered tag is only in the journal if you sell one system at a time.
 

Maolagin

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Spansh said:
I released my update live today, mapping values and scan values should now be calculated for every body. Feel free to throw me any issues on https://spansh.co.uk/bodies
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Maolagin said:
Slightly off-topic question - for your R2R plotter you clearly filter out the inhabited systems that start out pre-explored, since there's no payout for scanning those. But how do you do that? I was just perusing the EDSM APIs and I don't see a flag indicating that status anywhere in the available results. Is there just a static list of these systems somewhere?
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Update on this and an issue report for you @Spansh: since I happened to buy a new account during the sale, I've had a chance to try some mapping in the bubble on a fresh cmdr. Can verify that the scan values are just about spot-on, but unfortunately the R2R plotter is almost useless right now. Nearly all of the systems it recommends, at least in the vicinity of the starter systems, are pre-discovered and yield no scan data. I'm almost certain that wasn't the case when my main cmdr was new, so probably this is something that changed with the reshuffling of the tags when 3.3 landed.
 

Spansh

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Maolagin said:
Update on this and an issue report for you @Spansh: since I happened to buy a new account during the sale, I've had a chance to try some mapping in the bubble on a fresh cmdr. Can verify that the scan values are just about spot-on, but unfortunately the R2R plotter is almost useless right now. Nearly all of the systems it recommends, at least in the vicinity of the starter systems, are pre-discovered and yield no scan data. I'm almost certain that wasn't the case when my main cmdr was new, so probably this is something that changed with the reshuffling of the tags when 3.3 landed.
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Hmm, interesting. Currently I assume any unpopulated system is good for scanning, I don't know how to detect whether something is viable for scanning or not unless someone has better ideas. It might be that I simply have to exclude systems within a certain radius.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
There was some information in the DWE2 thread or Discord which stated that systems above a certain population level were "pre-discovered". Does that help a bit with that problem?
 

iain666

iain666
Maolagin said:
Nearly all of the systems it recommends, at least in the vicinity of the starter systems, are pre-discovered and yield no scan data.
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Are you sure? Systems where the data has been sold to UC show the full system map on the honk but the bodies still show as unexplored and can be scanned by fly past or FSS as in 3.2. I was certainly getting credits this way in the bubble before I left for DW2.

For R2R you want to be mapping the high value planets for maximum returns.
 
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