Explorers; does this bother you?

Within 1K LY of the bubble and not fully scanned? I haven't seen that in years.
The majority of boring rocks are left unscanned. All the HMW, EWL, ammonia, WW are scanned. Regular ice ball and rocky balls ? Not so much.
 
Sorry, I meant fully FSS'd, not mapped.
These days, a hell of a lot. A hell of a lot are fully FSS'd much further out than that too, at least on obvious routes, for example between nebulae. Within the kind of distances we're talking about here though, even on non-obvious routes (i.e. not aiming directly towards a nebula, Colonia etc.) there's a noticeably increased saturation.

The real point though is the one I already made earlier and seemed to be completely ignored by OP; there's nothing odd about crash sites in 'undiscovered' systems because by definition 'discovery' in Elite does not require merely finding something - it requires returning and handing in the scans. Which is objectively difficult if your ship is a smouldering ruin on some dustball 1,000LY from home, hence why we have crash sites on undiscovered planets.

I'll tell you what was funny back in the day - finding crashed nav beacons thousands of LY outside human space.
 
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These days, a hell of a lot. A hell of a lot are fully FSS'd much further out than that too, at least on obvious routes, for exampe between nebulae. Within the kind of distances we're talking about here though, even on non-obvious routes (i.e. not aiming directly towards a nebula, Colonia etc.) there's a noticeably increased saturation.

The real point though is the one I already made earlier and seemed to be completely ignored by OP; there's nothing odd about crash sites in 'undiscovered' systems because by definition 'discovery' on Elite does not require merely finding something - it requires returning and handing in the scans. Which is objectively difficult if your ship a a smouldering ruin on some dustball 1,000LY from home, hence why we have crash sites on undiscovered planets.

I'll tell you what was funny back in the day - finding crashed nav beacons thousands of LY outside human space.
That's my experience as well, and yes, it was absolutely horrid straight after launch. I booted up Odyssey while I was somewhere in the core and I found POIs everywhere. That said, the amounf of POIs should just gently taper off the farther you go from the bubble.

As for the act of discovery, the inconsistency is bugging me a lot. Exploration data is carried on your ship, but apparently exobiology data is carried exclusively on your person. Both types have to be handed in to be registered and rewarded, but codex discoveries and first footfalls are instantly registered for reasons I don't quite fully understand.
 
That's my experience as well, and yes, it was absolutely horrid straight after launch. I booted up Odyssey while I was somewhere in the core and I found POIs everywhere. That said, the amounf of POIs should just gently taper off the farther you go from the bubble.

As for the act of discovery, the inconsistency is bugging me a lot. Exploration data is carried on your ship, but apparently exobiology data is carried exclusively on your person. Both types have to be handed in to be registered and rewarded, but codex discoveries and first footfalls are instantly registered for reasons I don't quite fully understand.
You have to head canon it...

Expo data and Genetic Data: Large amounts of data that cannot be quickly transmitted over large distances. Must hand in in person!

Codex Discoveries and First Footfalls: Small amounts of data that travel well over the Galnet (which is automagically available Galaxy wide) that consist of planet name and abbreviated genus/species/geology info. Transmitted instantly over Galnet and registered everywhere that has access to Galnet!
 
That's my experience as well, and yes, it was absolutely horrid straight after launch. I booted up Odyssey while I was somewhere in the core and I found POIs everywhere. That said, the amounf of POIs should just gently taper off the farther you go from the bubble.

As for the act of discovery, the inconsistency is bugging me a lot. Exploration data is carried on your ship, but apparently exobiology data is carried exclusively on your person. Both types have to be handed in to be registered and rewarded, but codex discoveries and first footfalls are instantly registered for reasons I don't quite fully understand.
Space magic.
 
The real point though is the one I already made earlier and seemed to be completely ignored by OP; there's nothing odd about crash sites in 'undiscovered' systems because by definition 'discovery' in Elite does not require merely finding something - it requires returning and handing in the scans. Which is objectively difficult if your ship is a smouldering ruin on some dustball 1,000LY from home, hence why we have crash sites on undiscovered planets.
You are right, and I stand corrected. Thank you for your input.
 
Within 1K LY of the bubble and not fully scanned? I haven't seen that in years.
Within the bubble and Pleiades yes they'e well mapped. Move to the less popular areas and you find unmapped planets shockingly close to inhabited systems. I found an undiscvered brown dwarf near the Coal Sack before the Halloween event.
 
Within the bubble and Pleiades yes they'e well mapped. Move to the less popular areas and you find unmapped planets shockingly close to inhabited systems. I found an undiscvered brown dwarf near the Coal Sack before the Halloween event.
Factual: With the advice to filter routing to KGBFOAM stars, it is possible to find the other systems to have been passed over in favour of fuel stars.
 
Factual: With the advice to filter routing to KGBFOAM stars, it is possible to find the other systems to have been passed over in favour of fuel stars.
This is very true, the best way to find unexplored systems for tagging and mapping close to the bubble is to turn off scoopable stars since they're more likely to have been visited and scanned. Just for the love of God keep a good eye on your fuel levels and flip scoopables back on occasionally on the galmap to make sure that you're not getting led into a patch of non-scoopables when you're too low on fuel to get yourself to a refuelling star.
 
We've seen more than 1000 years of space travel in the ED setting, so chances of finding human left-behinds pretty much anywhere a ship was able to travel in those 1000 years are high. I'm surprised we don't see more of it, really, at least close to the Bubble.

We might even be who spread all those plants everywhere - seeding pristine worlds with our contaminated boots. Ridley Scott makes Sci Fi movies on the premise that we have no contamination protocols in place in the future, and we definitely don't follow them when we do. Probably not completely off the mark, especially if space travel is undertaken largely by SMEs in the future.

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I decided to take a trip out into the black to get away from the weapon/suit grind. It's been hit or miss when it comes to the actual exploration itself, but something I've noticed that really bugs me is I'll be in a system that no one has ever been to, and there are minor wrecks/distress signals on planet surfaces. It really destroys my motivation to log in and continue exploring. I just wanted to know if that bothered anyone else enough to not go exploring?
This is why I stopped exploring as it felt like someone else had already been there.
 
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