thanks for the update. shame! I had high hopes of high metal ringed mining nirvana.
Exploring and Mining?
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thanks for the update. shame! I had high hopes of high metal ringed mining nirvana.
I think that's something mining needs, there mega yield rings way out there. Make it another incentive to get a big ship and head out of the bubble. but as they are the same as pristine within the bubble, other than the excitement of finding it yourself, there is no other incentive to head out in an advanced mining rig.
I am getting ready to begin an assay project intended to produce a series of statistics about various metal drops from various systems and rings. Mostly to satisfy my curiousity.
It will involve going someplace with 50 prospector limpets and sampling (go ahead and mine them if you like!) 50 rocks - from the same location at the same time, entering the breakdown in a form that is backended by Google spreadsheets. If you are interested in participating in the assay program, please PM me or comment here.
This is still a test, but here's my assay form - it will eventually move (remember: anything you enter will go into a live spreadsheet so please be gentle with it!)
(EDIT: there are some problems with my form; I will be revising it soon)
Questions I want to answer:
1) are all pristine metallic rings the same?
2) how different are pristine rings from regular?
3) are different instances of the same ring different? (i.e.: is Jura 6 A ring always the same breakdown or does it change each time you jump into it?)
4) are there certain systems that have certain minerals or metals?
I intend for this data to be open (as usual) for anyone who wants to generate charts from.
It will involve going someplace with 50 prospector limpets and sampling (go ahead and mine them if you like!) 50 rocks - from the same location at the same time, entering the breakdown in a form that is backended by Google spreadsheets. If you are interested in participating in the assay program, please PM me or comment here.
This is still a test, but here's my assay form - it will eventually move (remember: anything you enter will go into a live spreadsheet so please be gentle with it!)
(EDIT: there are some problems with my form; I will be revising it soon)
Questions I want to answer:
1) are all pristine metallic rings the same?
2) how different are pristine rings from regular?
3) are different instances of the same ring different? (i.e.: is Jura 6 A ring always the same breakdown or does it change each time you jump into it?)
4) are there certain systems that have certain minerals or metals?
I intend for this data to be open (as usual) for anyone who wants to generate charts from.
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1) They all have the same mechanics
2) You mean from common? Night and day.
3) No, I can go on a session and find zero painite and 40 osmium, and then leave the ring, move over a little, and find 40 painite and zero osmium
4) Nope, all based on rings
As for exploration and mining, this thread came out roughly at the same time as mine. I had a different take - exploring local space to find the rings. Remember, there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of systems in local space, ripe for the taking. Since I've started mining and exploring, not only have I found some awesome places to mine, but I've run into so many amazing systems I had no idea were in my backyard.
In reality, you don't need a T9 to go mining. The mining missions give huge dividends, and yet they spawn so slowly, so it really doesn't make sense to come back from an hour's mine with more than say 10 or 20 of each rare ore. That will make you about 3 million, but it will take a while to get the missions to generate.
So yeah, my routine at the moment is to spend an hour looking around in my DBE for awesome systems to mine, as well as fill my exploration quota, and then another hour or so mining in one of my favourite places in my clipper.
I've made a thread collecting good mining locations in local space that are beautiful as well as lucrative: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=166318
Would love to get some mining buddies
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I know they are different from common. How different?
I suspect that it is session-based but I have found some rings that drop huge deliciousness all the time and others that are the same type (e.g.: Pristine, Metallic) and generally don't.
Have you experimented with instancing in and out of the same spot, to see if the drop-rate changes? That would imply there's a dice-roll when you instance in, or something like that. I mined 100 asteroids in one system and never got a single platinum, so - if it's random - I got incredibly lucky.
If you think it's not worth studying at all, maybe I should shelve the idea. If it is system-based then there might be some systems that are more gold-y or platinum-y than others and it'd be fun to make a chart.
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I am all for the study, especially if you enjoy it
I imagine that the mechanics aren't quite as clever as you seem to be hoping, given the way the rest of the game works, but I'm also optimistic that it's something better than that too.
You'll need at least 1000 data points, 10,000 would be ideal
I imagine that the mechanics aren't quite as clever as you seem to be hoping, given the way the rest of the game works, but I'm also optimistic that it's something better than that too.
You'll need at least 1000 data points, 10,000 would be ideal
I toyed around with a mining asp explorer before my python. I too believe the results are session based. But I suspect there is also another dynamic in play. When mining I usually start on the outside of the ring and plot a trail to the planet. Usually with varying results. On other occasions when I find a tasty rock I plot a track along the ring instead of toward the planet. I seem to get a higher repeat of the same good elements this way. I wonder if its by design having veins of similar composition rocks in the same ring radius.
Do you think this could work fine or similar if teh Community Goal competition turns out to the the Sothis Gold option?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168522&highlight=decide
Power Play is starting to wear on me. I think I've almost go as far as I want with it. Been meaning to tap in to mining since the last CG and exploration is starting to look tempting too.
Sothis is about 600LY out and the goal would be to provide gold to a terra forming independent so could be a good mix of exploration and mining.
Judging by the screenshots you've posted in this thread, your undiscovered pristine metallic rings are exactly as good as the pristine metallic rings in inhabited space. Except for high intensity RES - those are for some reason even better than completely untapped resource sites thousands of lightyears from the next outpost.
the main issue is that we're combining exploration and mining - ie the two least favorite parts of the game of the Devs. It's obvious what needs to be done, but why bother writing it out.
the main issue is that we're combining exploration and mining - ie the two least favorite parts of the game of the Devs. It's obvious what needs to be done, but why bother writing it out.
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Well I just sold my cobra explorer for a asp. I also play Iron man mode. One ship one life. So I don't need any stinking insurance.
Right now my ship fitted with 6 bin, detail scanner, basic discovery scanner, 64 cargo hold and collectors. But at a system that has rare ore. So I will have the advanced discovery scanner tonight.
Right now my ship fitted with 6 bin, detail scanner, basic discovery scanner, 64 cargo hold and collectors. But at a system that has rare ore. So I will have the advanced discovery scanner tonight.