F63 Condor VS the Taipan Fighter VS the Imperial Fighter

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Discussion thread, what are the pros and cons of each in your view? Which is your favorite and why?


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Taipan, because Lakon. ;) Since I have to take my Conda on future exploration trips if I want to carry some fighters, I simply must take the Taipan. I might also take some Imperial Fighters on top if the weight penalty isn't too bad. Haven't checked that yet.

Short video testing the two: http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ahwa1a/video/22805047

The GU-97 is ridiculously agile.
The vid also shows a small bug near the end where the planet surface is rendered before the fighter bay interior when launching. Happens about 20% of the time for me.
 
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Yeah it has something of a mecha-mothra look to it doesn't it :p

In (earlier?) beta the imp was looking like the fastest & best all-rounder, but looks like there's been a balance pass since.

Only problem right now is tracking the beggers down to compare them. Only found the condor so far. The boost acceleration in that thing coming from zero is something to behold :)
 
I dig the look of the Taipan the most.

I have heard rumor the Condor is meh... and the Imp was apparently incredibly fast and nimble, but the patch notes look to say the slowed it up some to keep it more in-line with the others... Haven't had the chance to test, but you can be assured I will have an Imp first.
 
I'm a big Lakon guy, but their fighter is pretty ugly.

I'm picking up a Condor to replace this Imperial fighter I have now.

Unless I can have one of each, That would be rad.
 
Seems you can only have 1 bay in your ship at once, so max two fighters / loadouts at the same time. Boo :) oh well
 
Only problem right now is tracking the beggers down to compare them.

You have to look at the system's allegiance. I found the GU97 at Empire aligned systems, the Condor at Federation aligned systems, and the Taipan at Independent/Alliance aligned systems.
 
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You have to look at the system's allegiance. I found the GU97 at Empire aligned systems, the Condor at Federation aligned systems, and the Taipan at Independent/Alliance aligned systems.
Aye figured as much. Just trying to track down appropriate places to buy in LYR space. Cause, discount ocd :)
 
How fast do crew members rank up?

Like everything else in Elite, very slowly [yesnod]

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Aye figured as much. Just trying to track down appropriate places to buy in LYR space. Cause, discount ocd :)

Well if that's the case, referencing Diaguandri (which stocks Taipan), Mitnahas (12.91 ly - federation aligned) has the Condor, and Baldr (35.32 ly - Empire aligned) has the GU97
 
Like everything else in Elite, very slowly [yesnod]

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Well if that's the case, referencing Diaguandri (which stocks Taipan), Mitnahas (12.91 ly - federation aligned) has the Condor, and Baldr (35.32 ly - Empire aligned) has the GU97
Cheers, picked em up at harm in the end :)

a few (pve) observations, flying with no copilot:

pip settings on mothership before deploying fighter seem to be getting forgotten / possibly overlapping with fighter controls at some point. This is something of a problem when you're relying on 4 pips in your shield to keep your main ship alive. Will probably need to raise a bug but will do some further testing on this first

- condor is great fun and its boost is a wonder to behold (first fighter I got to try), but when compared to the imp, as a fighter I'm afraid it's frankly outclassed in every way that matters. Haven't found the taipan so can't speak for that yet. Condor is a little more sturdy yes, but that doesn't really count for much when set against being able to dance around your opponents so easily that you can simply evade nearly any attack. Either ship gets instasmashed by nearly anything half-serious that connects, so the extra toughness of condor is pretty much moot. However having said that..

- ..attacked by wing = no. Just no, don't even bother jumping in your fighter. You'll be swatted like a fly. even by the puniest of ships. In a 1v1 though, these things are brilliant!

- pulse lasers have highest dps according to outfitting (?) but drain the capacitor so fast that they're pretty worthless. This being the case, trying out beams seemed kinda pointless. Plasmas & chaff seem to be the way forward. Heat can get high but that's much more manageable than a constantly dry wep capacitor

- I wondered what the point of 2 bays is if you're only planning to pack 1 loadout, found out the reason.. You get your fighter exploded & you're put on a cooldown to deploy the next one, but not if you've got another fighter ready in the other slot. So pack the loadout you want in both slots and you can launch a second while the first is still repairing, constant fighter goodness..

- ..well not *quite* constant.. the loading screen between mothership & fighter switching will literally get you killed. This needs to change. Loading screens in the middle of a real-time battle is just NOT ok. Dial some things down if needed to make room in memory or whatever. The anims & launch sequence are all fine timing-wise on their own, but the black screen with four orange squares in between, sometimes I've counted getting towards 10secs for that loading screen to eff off in a fight, that's more than enough time to swing the battle against you, this ain't a board game.

- but never mind SLFs are blummin brilliant, hats off fd you've really delivered on this one. Here's hoping the wrinkles are worked out soon(tm).
 
I loaded 1 imperial and 1 taipan, haven't tried the latter. My expert pilot wiped away a python and then a viper both competent. I didn't even need to deploy weapons, the imperial is like mighty mouse on speed with a rocket sticking out his rear!!!
 
I gotta go with the GU-97, with Chaff and plasma repeaters. Weapons are surprisingly strong. Almost too strong, but I suppose that balances out the fighter's propensity to explode if you fart in the pilot's seat. Anyway, all 3 fighters I've noticed die super quick if anything manages to get a bead on you. So I went with my tried and true philosophy of being as nimble as humanely possible and just not getting shot, like my Imperial Courier. And the GU-97 has agility in spades. That agility combined with the powerful weapons is just plain deadly.

Also it's Gutamaya. So you get the swank factor too.
 

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I was able to equip two different fighters at the same time in my Gunship, a Taipan and a F63 Condor. I tried them both out last night and right now I'm leaning towards the Condor. I love the speed and the agility. I love the looks of both but the Condor wins over the Spidery look of the Taipan. Will try the Imperial Fighter next to see how it stacks up.
 
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Those plasma repeaters are surprisingly strong, at least, they seem to be. I used my Beluga as target practice this morning lol. Pretty decent against shields.

I definitely prefer the GU's handling/speed over the Taipan, extra armor means little in such a squishy ship. Either way, they're both dumb looking.

Just got back home to Federation space, so I'll be picking up a Condor asap. They actually look like a proper, more 'realistic' fighter to me, if that makes sense.
 

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I gotta go with the GU-97, with Chaff and plasma repeaters. Weapons are surprisingly strong. Almost too strong, but I suppose that balances out the fighter's propensity to explode if you fart in the pilot's seat. Anyway, all 3 fighters I've noticed die super quick if anything manages to get a bead on you. So I went with my tried and true philosophy of being as nimble as humanely possible and just not getting shot, like my Imperial Courier. And the GU-97 has agility in spades. That agility combined with the powerful weapons is just plain deadly.

Also it's Gutamaya. So you get the swank factor too.

I finally tried the GU-97 and I agree with this, it's fast and the most nimble of the three ships. I haven't tried it with plasma repeaters, I'll have to give that a shot. Aesthetically, I still prefer the F63 Condor though.

The Keelback I just bought is equipped with the GU97 while my Gunship has the other two fighters. I would like to get another ship equipped with a fighter bay soon, looking over the list of capable ships, I'm surprised the IClipper isn't one of them. If the gunship has them, why not the Clipper too? No love for the Empire? The first empire ship that can fit SLF's is the Cutter?
 
I've actually been leaning more towards loadouts with point defence in them. I've found that if you're getting hit in a fighter, you're doing something wrong. (As many people have said, whether you've got 12 hull, or 45, even just farting in your seat will cause the ship to disassemble itself in protest) Missiles however, have a mind of their own, and often 180 instantly to one shot your fighter, multiple times over... I've also noticed even allies seem to missile my fighter. Strange bug. The point defense seems to keep me mostly safe from missile spam. Feel like I'm playing GTA V or something dodging all those missile spammers in my jet, lol.

I like all three fighters ascetics wise. The Condor looks like a proper military fighter. I like the GU97 for that, "I'm rich, I need pearl while and padded leather seats" look. And last but not least, the Taipan for its overall look + cockpit interior, also those folding wings. Looks great with a Keelback, what with having all these moving parts on display. Also like that more rugged, average man's look of the Taipan. Looks more exporatory/civilian. Great for my explora-conda.

As for weapons, I've really come to love the plasma repeaters, and beams. The beams drain your capicitor, but strip a ships shields in seconds. Even an Asp wasn't lasting more than 2 or 3 passes before it's shields stripped.
 
Taipan looks the coolest, Imp fighter has the best performance. Condor gets left in the dust.

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I was able to equip two different fighters at the same time in my Gunship, a Taipan and a F63 Condor. I tried them both out last night and right now I'm leaning towards the Condor. I love the speed and the agility. I love the looks of both but the Condor wins over the Spidery look of the Taipan. Will try the Imperial Fighter next to see how it stacks up.

Imp fighter is faster, more agile and has a better power distributor than the condor (meaning it can fire it's guns longer)
 
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