lols... was using o7 back in my army days on our Vax systems. Circa '82.
15 years ago... Lulz
EDIT: Actually it might have been <o I can't remember to be honest.
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Fact: Dumb AI promotes and encourages the behavior of gankers.
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lols... was using o7 back in my army days on our Vax systems. Circa '82.
15 years ago... Lulz
EDIT: Actually it might have been <o I can't remember to be honest.
It was. o7 is well documented as originating in Eve. <0 can still be found on archived military documents.
I can't believe you expected gamers to know what a real salute looks like.
It was. o7 is well documented as originating in Eve. <0 can still be found on archived military documents.
I can't believe you expected gamers to know what a real salute looks like.
Maybe you're right. Not worth arguing about.
Can you show me this documentation?
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It was. o7 is well documented as originating in Eve. <0 can still be found on archived military documents.
I can't believe you expected gamers to know what a real salute looks like.
I've never used the currently used one because I just can't salute with my left hand. A real testament to 20+ year old indoctrination! Less than zero I might be able to do though.
Ironically it was the nerfing of the 2.0 NPC's that set me on the path to becoming a PvPer. After the community collectively sh%# themselves over the increased difficulty and forced Fdev to dial them back to oblivion I started looking at the player base with a whole different perspective, that's for sure. Back in those days I rode with the DWE as a pure explorer, actually looked up to guys like Agony Aunt and bought into the collective philosophy that SDC were the Devil incarnate.
I remember you saying something along the lines of noticing that the PvP players were able to take the AI change in their stride and your having a newfound respect for their abilities. I think being good at something and how that skill is put into practice are unrelated however.
It doesn't matter how satisfying or difficult an AI challenge can be it's no substitute for salt farming when the bitter & disillusioned manage to find the right kind of player to frustrate.
If you're talking about the o7 salute it seems to be the kind of thing that can be 'invented' lots of times independently. o7 is easy to type - no need for shift and the two keys are close on the keyboard.
Need AI chatter bots...really annoying ones that constantly message those that attack them with out of character threats and vaguely insulting non sequiturs.
Weak. It only took 2 months of powerplay to turn me into a raving savage.
How can anyone possibly be debating the proper in game salute?
Z0.
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Not personally. The easiest way would be to use search engines and the wayback machine to show you that the first place it appeared on the internet was the eve forums, except... Forums didn't show individual posts in search engines then because having a search engine crawl your entire forum was the equivalent to a DDOS, and I can't remember what Eve's website used to be. It was owned by a company that made jewelry polishing equipment back in 2004.
And that's as much effort as I care to put into it.
You can define ganking and or griefing any which way you like.
Likewise.
Fact: Dumb griefer promotes and encourages the use of PG and Solo.
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Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Indeed statistics can be - however, as Frontier have access to the game analytics, they *know* how many active players don't have Horizons - they don't need to make bets or assumptions, while we can only speculate based on published information.
Strange how this obvious point keeps being overlooked.
Ive never heard of you and ive posted here for over 2 years now. i would suggest in that case, that your reputation is in need of some work.
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In regard to the original Post though, A.I and challange is one thing but i wonder if there are other motivations.
Ive never ganked, and only engaged in PvP from a reciprocal motivation. But i have now decided to buy a second ED account simply to become a Player Pirate.
1. sounds like alot of fun.... which im finding harder and harder to find in ED as the end game content for long term players is Meh!
2. I'm tired of the constant moaning from non-pvp players about PvP in open and how toxic and manipulative they can be in their own right.
3. ED is being dumbed down with every patch to cater to all the carebears and the game is now starting to become an unsatisfying experiance, a Pirate Career in game however... wanted and pursued across the galaxy sounds interesting.
4. i wont troll or use exploits, it will be an honest Role playing Pirate experiance, but i will sink and i will engage any targets of opportunity who come across my path. That isnt Ganking, Thats business.
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Sole Hunter
Banned
We dont gank because of dumb AI. We gank players because there's very little to no consequences associated with the destruction of another player. To top it off combat logging is an incentive to grief as hard as possible.
It has nothing to do with challenge or because NPC's are poorly programmed.
It's all about FUN. Killing other players is fun, killing players in groups is simply more efficient and fun because you get to share the experience. If you get angry because I killed you in open, it's your own fault. You agreed to the consequences by flying in open.
If you put too much consequences PVP will die and there will be no room for it.
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