[FAKENEWS] Programs altering your game will be forbidden (Odyssey)?

Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
Hi there,

so some guy claimed that with Odyssey Frontier will forbid programs which alter your inventory or visuals if not approved by Frontier. He also claims that there is a different version of ED Dicovery which will be forbidden because as he states it interferes with your game. Allegedly it creates new tabs in your ships computer and so on.
For me it sounds really unlikely. Does anybody know more about it?

Martin Shepard
 
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Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
Screemonster said:
doesn't EDMC just read your player journals? Those are just text documents.
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He says this plugin would create tabs in your ships inventory and so on. Personally I don't know cause I neither use EDMC nor this plugin.
He also says that Frontier moved ED Epic Games Store cause they got a EAC (Easy Anti Cheat) license which they will use for that purpose to detect those programs.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Frontier have made available certain interfaces to get information out of the game - the Journal (well-supported) and the cAPI (deprecated but still available for now). There's no chance of that changing (and I would expect Odyssey to further extend what we get from those).

Equally, those tools can put overlays on the screen. But so does Steam, so do various streaming tools, so does Windows itself occasionally. They both can't ban that and wouldn't want to. But those tools are restricted to the defined interfaces for what information they display.

Directly editing Elite Dangerous game code or memory is considered cheating and is a bannable offence. But that's already true. None of the tools like EDDiscovery do anything like that, obviously.
 

Cmdr Snuffler

Cmdr Snuffler
Martin Shepard said:
Can't give you a link cause it's a private facebook group where he claimed this.

He precised his states about ED Discovery and said that the use of the EDD/EDMC plugin would result in a ban.
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Don't those just read from files on your hard drive and use official FD APIs?
Did they post any links or source information to backup their claims or is this just a random person trolling?
While I may not be the best internet sleuth out there, from my initial searches I cannot find anything about 3rd party tools creating extra tabs in a ships panel.
My guess is that's it's 9.99/10 on the porky scale.
 

Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
Ian Doncaster said:
Frontier have made available certain interfaces to get information out of the game - the Journal (well-supported) and the cAPI (deprecated but still available for now). There's no chance of that changing (and I would expect Odyssey to further extend what we get from those).

Equally, those tools can put overlays on the screen. But so does Steam, so do various streaming tools, so does Windows itself occasionally. They both can't ban that and wouldn't want to. But those tools are restricted to the defined interfaces for what information they display.

Directly editing Elite Dangerous game code or memory is considered cheating and is a bannable offence. But that's already true. None of the tools like EDDiscovery do anything like that, obviously.
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That was my thought. He claims that ObsidianAnt has said in a stream that Frontier will do this with Odyssey.
 

Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
Cmdr Snuffler said:
Don't those just read from files on your hard drive and use official FD APIs?
Did they post any links or source information to backup their claims or is this just a random person trolling?
While I may not be the best internet sleuth out there, from my initial searches I cannot find anything about 3rd party tools creating extra tabs in a ships panel.
My guess is that's it's 9.99/10 on the porky scale.
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No, he didn't give me any source except of "ObsidianAnt said that in a stream". I didn't find something on Google either.
 

GloatingSwine

GloatingSwine
In principle programs that access the depth buffer could be used to aimbot and visibility hack (removing volumetric effects like smoke and fog) which could affect PvP ground combat.

It's fairly common for online games to look askance at such programs. (It's why eg. Reshade disables depth buffer access when it detects network activity).
 

Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
GloatingSwine said:
In principle programs that access the depth buffer could be used to aimbot and visibility hack (removing volumetric effects like smoke and fog) which could affect PvP ground combat.

It's fairly common for online games to look askance at such programs. (It's why eg. Reshade disables depth buffer access when it detects network activity).
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Yeah, it is likely that there will be some sort of anti cheat software as the game gets the shooter part. But the question is, will this anti cheat also detect 3rd party programs reading your journals or displaying overlays.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Martin Shepard said:
He also says that Frontier moved ED Epic Games Store cause they got a EAC (Easy Anti Cheat) license which they will use for that purpose to detect those programs.
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Yea they didn't move to Epic game store they just made it available to buy on their store and you'll still be able to buy and play the game on Steam.
 
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