FAO FRONTIER: List of Graphical Changes / Issues for since Patch 1.3

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Anarch157a

Anarch157a
CMDR Hagglebeard said:
This is depressing. If this is for Xbox, that's even more so. Why can't FD build two separate versions of the game with different graphics? We don't deserve this.

With CQC and perhaps a few more eye candies, we can keep them entertained. I mean, they went out and bought a Console, they can't truly get upset enough with that to make FD change their mind.
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I think this graphical nerf has more to do with the MacOS release than with XBox. Keep in mind that most Macs are notebooks, and the desktops are mostly iMacs, both lines have weaker GPUs than desktop gaming PCs, with no possibility of upgrade. The only Macs with beafier GPUs are Mac Pros, but those are few and usually are for professional activities, not games.
 

Xannen

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Honestly, regardless of the reasons for the downgrade, its not what PC users signed up for. To see the game and have played the game with a certain fidelity up to a point, only to have it stripped away slowly is not what I spent money on.

I for one am beyond disappointed by this.. the graphics of this game was the one thing I could always say was exemplary about this game tbh.. where there are other gaps in gameplay, systems or any of the other issues of the game, at least the graphics always left you in awe.

This just sucks and I honestly want to get my money back after this and feel pc players deserve to if they feel the same.
 
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MB_Faber

MB_Faber
Can't say that I'm satisfied with the news on graphics. I see their reasoning, I just don't see why it needed to be implemented in this fashion. Downgrading everyone's experience for the lower end systems, whether they be consoles or other computers, is not something I would have personally done. Even in PvP specific games, people are still often allowed to push their systems even to a point that some may consider it unfair for those playing on low-tier systems. Frankly, I don't care if that would have been the case here. With the game mechanics in ED, you're pretty much given the enemy's location at all points in time until they just outrun you, 'n gun it out of the system.

Very silly downgrade in my opinion, but hey, it's not my job.
 
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possessed

possessed
Anarch157a said:
I think this graphical nerf has more to do with the MacOS release than with XBox. Keep in mind that most Macs are notebooks, and the desktops are mostly iMacs, both lines have weaker GPUs than desktop gaming PCs, with no possibility of upgrade. The only Macs with beafier GPUs are Mac Pros, but those are few and usually are for professional activities, not games.
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Here is proof that we have now, in game diference https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=163274

bat you right, in few things in your post...
 
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woodhouse

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Well, look at it like this: alpha and premium beta backers payed substantially more, so it makes sense that alpha and beta looked better than the release version.
At least we briefly had access to super nice graphics.
 

xyphic

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Arjin said:
Sorry Jeff, much respect to you, but the game FPS wise was fantastic in 1.2, the so called optimizations aren't helping anything except make the game look worse. I don't have a powerhouse rig, but I get damn near solid 60fps everywhere except in RES zones. Since 1.3 and the optimizations things have only gotten worse, can't tell me they are optimizing the game to make it worse?... makes no sense.
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Just because it works for your particular combination of hardware, that doesn't mean it works for everyone else. This is one of the big problems with graphical development, even though the APIs are consistent across all hardware, the results are not necessarily always the same, especially when developers are pushing the capability of the hardware. While ED may not appear to be particularly graphically intensive, I suspect it's doing some fairly nifty things with the hardware. Where the developers find that doesn't work with one bit of hardware or another, they have to either get the hardware manufacturer to fix it in their drivers (good luck with that), find workarounds for it, or simply back off on what they were trying to do.

I don't subscribe to the view that the devs are downgrading the graphics to fit one port or another, especially not the Xbox where there's no crossplay with the PC (and as a result of which they don't need to be visually consistent).
 

B33 ENN

B33 ENN
Zac Antonaci said:
Dust / Fog: This was optimised due to a pathological case of overdraw (which looked very broken in a number of cases). There’s definitely no downgrade due to our Mac and Xbox One versions, but there have been some changes. Performance and visual consistency should be improved in the general case, however it does seem that some systems are not looking as good as they did. As ever there is no perfect solution. For a fair comparison, the exact same position and lighting conditions are needed (some viewing angles will always looks more awesome!), but we could have entire threads dedicated to discussions on how to light rings (and we’ve had many long discussions internally). I have a number of open issues in our system on the look of the rings, though currently no ETA for when we’ll be addressing them.”
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Well, I reported that issue in a bug report and one of your people kindly acknowledged you were looking into it. The game has become unplayable for me anyway due to stutter and hitching so it's the least of my problems now, but I hope you can make it look as good as it used to prior to 1.3 by the time I feel like revisiting the game in a few months.
 

Nero640

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What happened to the game?!!

Hey guys! I havent played the game in quite a long time only to discover this morning that graphics have undergone terrible downgrade!! What in the name that is holy happened to the visuals I had when i purchased the game?! The game is now uglier than X3 terran conflict , a game that dates back to 2008 for pete's sake! I checked my graphic settings and cranked everything to full ultra but the game remains as ugly as a bat.;What did you guys do with the game or more like why did you do this?
 

ZeeWolf

ZeeWolf
Nero640 said:
Hey guys! I havent played the game in quite a long time only to discover this morning that graphics have undergone terrible downgrade!! What in the name that is holy happened to the visuals I had when i purchased the game?! The game is now uglier than X3 terran conflict , a game that dates back to 2008 for pete's sake! I checked my graphic settings and cranked everything to full ultra but the game remains as ugly as a bat.;What did you guys do with the game or more like why did you do this?
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You should specify what "downgrades" you actually noticed. Then this would be more useful feedback. There are already several threads that have very specific examples and responses from the developers.

There is no evidence of upstream changes to the existing already distributed PC build from the console version.
 

Vasea Azure

Vasea Azure
Microsoft could tell them to "downgrade" the pc version so it would not look that much better than a xbox one. ppl are already asking - should I buy elite on PC or xbox? - why to buy the one that looks worst? Thats my lovely speculation on the subject.
 
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