FD: Apparently Elite got noticed, not in a good way

Jakester13

Jakester13
Comparing the 2 games is like comparing Football Manager and FIFA series. One you manage, one you play. I did a trial of Eve when it was the only decent space sim around, but it didn't do it for me, so I sat and waited for E: D.

I personally welcome all these new players (and the cash to FD) with open arms. I play 90% in open, and all I can say is:

"This galaxy IS big enough for all of us!"

I have not yet failed to find quiet systems with good trade routes devoid of griefers and pirates, and I have only ever met civil, friendly people in my travels, but I wouldn't mind a bit more threat out there! I am yet to be pirated or griefed - maybe I'm just lucky!
 

Monk

Monk
Jakester13 said:
I have not yet failed to find quiet systems with good trade routes devoid of griefers and pirates, and I have only ever met civil, friendly people in my travels, but I wouldn't mind a bit more threat out there! I am yet to be pirated or griefed - maybe I'm just lucky!
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I'm curious to know the average combat rank of people that get pirated or griefed. I used to trade rares (in Open) in my Asp a little while back and was never pulled over. Granted, I have an Expert combat ranking and my Asp was well armed, but I would have been willing to "unwillingly" relinquish a few tons of cargo if I had been properly pirated.
 

Herbinator

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Eve is fun as you learn the mechanics. After that you are just pawns for the 7 - 10 year vets who essentially own the completely illogical Eve universe. Eve has no space and has spent its potential. Eve is a private club for its vets now ... hardly a game at all.

Space-loving gamers will invariably gravitate here. So welcome the Eve players as they seek to fulfill their need for actual play.
 

William J Smith

William J Smith
Monk said:
I'm curious to know the average combat rank of people that get pirated or griefed. I used to trade rares (in Open) in my Asp a little while back and was never pulled over. Granted, I have an Expert combat ranking and my Asp was well armed, but I would have been willing to "unwillingly" relinquish a few tons of cargo if I had been properly pirated.
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I play in open all the time.... then someone tried pirating me.. so I ran and boosted until the cops showed up... unfortunetly he'd already burned out my FSD and thrusters....
Ran into him again in the same system 20 mins later, ok, he got me, fair play to him, but with no shields and 75% hull left and a hole in his power plant, hope he had fun with the cops who'd showed up again by that time.


As for the EVE players coming to grief me... hmmm 1 piddly basic sidey vs my Asp..... boost away from him, get to 2 Km seperation, FA off, roll, FA on, thrust towards him while firing all 6 guns at once.
If he's got more than 10% hull left after the first pass , hes doing well.... :p


As for griefing someone in an Anaconda....... the 'conda pilot says "did you just feel a bump? ... oh sidey on the cockpit glass..lets put the wipers on and get rid of it" :D

Bill

'Paying £40 a time just to try and drive people off a game you hate... sheesh.....:rolleyes:
 

Vandyl

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Lancing said:
I'm not sure if FD may already be aware (I assume yes). But apparently your success has gotten noticed.
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One of my old corp mates from EvE mentioned last night. Apparently a large group of players from multiple corps on EvE are deliberately targeting Elite, this was going on before to a limited degree but has apparently reached a much more serious and organized level since the Steam launch. The intent seems to be to run Elite into the ground before it can take off. The plan is apparently to target and grief the living crap out of people, new players specifically until people quit and the game dies off.
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I'd imagine eventually they'll lose interest and give up, but from the sounds of things you'll have a very large group (by Elite standards) of players from outside of the Elite community targeting your player base.
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Anyway, for what its worth.
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Frontier do not require any help from outside sources to accomplish this. They are doing a fine job on their own.
 

Bomba Luigi

Bomba Luigi
Good, more Money for the Devs to put in the Game. Its not like the can do anything to harm me unless I choose to let them do anything to me.

Thats the nice thing about Elite, we have controll over our own gaming expierence and nobody else.
 

Phaaded

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Lancing said:
I'm not sure if FD may already be aware (I assume yes). But apparently your success has gotten noticed.
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One of my old corp mates from EvE mentioned last night. Apparently a large group of players from multiple corps on EvE are deliberately targeting Elite, this was going on before to a limited degree but has apparently reached a much more serious and organized level since the Steam launch. The intent seems to be to run Elite into the ground before it can take off. The plan is apparently to target and grief the living crap out of people, new players specifically until people quit and the game dies off.
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I'd imagine eventually they'll lose interest and give up, but from the sounds of things you'll have a very large group (by Elite standards) of players from outside of the Elite community targeting your player base.
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Anyway, for what its worth.
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I'd like to see any evidence of this.

As I have played Eve for roughly 7 years, I've never heard anything of the sort.

What is the motivation? Elite is not stealing large amounts of Eve players.

Mostly because there is nothing to do in Elite....

I'll add: "griefing" does not exist in Elite. It's called PvP. Deal with it like an adult or leave; and it's actually quite fun.
 
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jabberwalkie

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I see two things possibly happening: 1) group gets organized and irritates players enough they form groups to combat each other; 2) group of eve converts get bored and leaves. I am thinking the second.
 

Dave1235

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I_Am_Static said:
They don't sound like very smart people. So they're all going to buy the game, contributing to further development and they think they can run players out when there's a solo and private mode option? Oh dear....
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Every sale is money in the bank, but I agree with you with Solo & Groups mean it can never be a big problem.

The instancing / matchmaking, not only the 32 player cap but matching based on location & connection speeds etc in Open should dilute any such attempts further.

Even the only Open people can still log out & back in to change instance without changing mode if they are camped at a station.
 

Jorlin

Jorlin
How does this concern me....?

I play solo 100%.
No, i lied, just today i took on a challenge in open (and failed... horribly)
But the most funny thing is:
- They can only take over open play... and most likely not even this.
- The only "force" that can really and absolutely make sure that they don't get their will, never will enjoy the game.... are the solo/group players ;)
 

Maxavius

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RailBalco said:
Ok, so they pay 50 euro for this game, because they dont like it and they want to troll it?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :D :D :D

EVE community must be even more silly than it was when I left. Did they even imagine, they are in fact supporting us, real ED players? :D
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Omg. That is the most redicoulus thing I've read in a long time. Who are theses idiots ?
 

Lancing

Lancing
Phaaded said:
I'd like to see any evidence of this.

As I have played Eve for roughly 7 years, I've never heard anything of the sort.

What is the motivation? Elite is not stealing large amounts of Eve players.

Mostly because there is nothing to do in Elite....

I'll add: "griefing" does not exist in Elite. It's called PvP. Deal with it like an adult or leave; and it's actually quite fun.
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It was a conversation on TeamSpeak with about 15 people, why do people in EvE do half the crap they do. I have no idea, you'd have to go ask them. Given your view on griefing you probably can answer that question better then I can. PVP is fine, for me exploiting bugs and design flaws in the game to screw with other people is griefing. So is targeting newbies for no other reason then you are bored or want to turn people off a game. But that's just my opinion, obviously you feel that's totally legit so we are clearly not going to see eye to eye on that.

Edit: I am definitely not saying everyone from EvE is a . I met a lot of awesome people on there and some of them are on Elite now. But there are others...
 
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Scimiter

Scimiter
Phaaded said:
I'd like to see any evidence of this.

As I have played Eve for roughly 7 years, I've never heard anything of the sort.

What is the motivation? Elite is not stealing large amounts of Eve players.

Mostly because there is nothing to do in Elite....

I'll add: "griefing" does not exist in Elite. It's called PvP. Deal with it like an adult or leave; and it's actually quite fun.
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I agree with most of your post, other that what I have highlighted, I find plenty to do in ED, but like any game its not for everyone, EVE sounds hell to me, but you obviously enjoy it, and that is all that counts.
 
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