Hint: main points highlighted for fast read, beware the landmines of normal text.
Fact #1.
There is a fundemental difference between a "Private Group" and an Open PVE.
* Open PvE: An Open PVE would be just that, a
single, repeat,
single location that you just enter
freely as you do in Open.
* Private is group is just that, PRIVATE. you have to
join then. An extra step segregating the community, not uniting it. An Open PVE mode would make groups like Mobius not as needed, but these various groups (even Mobius is not a single group, but multiple) could finally join each other.
As it is now, it is segregation.
Fact #2.
PvP players would not leave Open PVP, They wouldn't want to play in a PVE Environment. OH, that's right, they want their targets to be "care bare easy", how dare that other commander actually have the guns to shoot back,
They are the care bares wanting easy targets. PVP Only would make their game harder since non PVP-consenting pilots would not show up anyway. Those commanders that just want easy kills, those are the care bares, because a full on PVP mode means they'd have a real challenge on their hands and the game would be harder since many
PvP Players always claim to want a harder game. This would make it so since everyone would be carrying guns to the shoot-out! 2 facts for the price of 1.
If a PvE Open mode was made available, and you currently have no problem with Open as it is now, would you leave it? (maybe I should find a place on the web and create a poll, would be interesting results.)
Fact #3.
The wild wild west would be even wilder now that only PvP consenting players would show up there. Oh, that's right, they want easy targets, see care bare comment in Fact #2. Some posters say they like risk and danger flying in open, Now, the danger is even more real.
Fact #4.
There would still be explores and traders in a PVP Open. Just because some one is willing to do PVP doesn't mean everyone's going to be EXCLUSIVELY doing PVP, but that little Imperial Eagle or Diamondback Explorer is about to blow your Aanaconda A:x:x out of the sky! OH, wait, See Fact #2 on Carebare comment again. Guess you better "Get Gud."
Fact #5.
Both communities would have a chance to thrive in their own play style. because:
a. Many say Elite is a game where you can play as you want, as long as you play their way and PvP or go to Solo/Private.
b. Making an Open PvE fixes the game to be what even they say is "true", Play as you want. If you desire the wild west, go to PvP, if you want a stroll in the park go to PvE.
-- If that's the way they want to play, and you say Elite is a game you can do that, then why is it rigged so that a particular play style is undermined by the game deisgn? If you argue against this fact, then see my post about adding changing the menu to read: "Open Play (PVP)" because you would be arguing for that then.
So, given the above 5 facts,
I can conclude that Frontier Development WANTS more powerful players to kill new players as a mater of game design. (ohh, shocker.
) FDev breaks up the PvE community by design and this is community supported. These mechanics punish PvE players and thus they have a lesser quality game experience by limiting their ability to experience a more fully occupied game world.
Fdev wants that, and so does the community, given its acceptance and the number of times people are told to go private/solo. The fact that there is no "PvE Open" emboldens this very idea and encourages a segregated community and encourages bullying because it obvious looking at the main menu, something is missing for the PvE player.
Since PVP players are so worried less people would show up in Open to PvP, maybe the PVE community is the silent majority, and that's why the PVP crowd is so loud on the forums? Think their not, I wonder how much this post will be shouted down? hmm....... oh wait, It's already several pages long.
Bonus Fact:
Some commanders may not be able to have the fast reflexes or fancy control HOTAS's and could have physical or mental issues, limited vision or hearing, limited reflexes or eye hand coordination, yet still be able to fly and dock their ships and do cargo and explore. But those players don't deserve an Open environment right, or to be with other like minded individuals? They have to be limited to a private group or to be by themselves. Even tho it would NEVER be possible for them to "Get Gud" even if they most desired it.
You think these kind of people don't play? Then what was the Enigma expedition all about? Why couldn't that have been for all of the PvE community to join in on without being limited to a private group be able to be played in an Open PvE? And yes, I have a disability too, so I can talk, I have low vision, and combat is more difficult to keep track of. And yet I am locked out of a larger community because of FDev's design and called a Care bare. Feel good about your self, go ahead, Do it! feel good about your self to put some one down who is unable to work on a level playing field, Punch down, why don't you! Your
GUD after all, right? Do it here publicly, make fun of a man with low vision, show the world the MAN you are. ...
(or woman, if your gender is so inclined, equal opportunity bullies welcome! [heart] )
But then again, you just want easy targets, and FDev supports you, it's their :x game right? There's no need to change it, working as intended, so why ask, Fdev likes it like it is. I just want to be clear what the game design reflects in terms of how it can be viewed.
Thanks FDev for making most people welcome. Let the bullying begin and FDev Stay quiet, Isn't that how it always works. Watch and see.... here we go!!!