where is the problem? Find 3 friends and go nutz or ignore this loop, ez
Fdev ! stop the 1 billion a day shared wing pirate massacres bonanza
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Its the finding 3 friends part that might be the problem
To get the high paying massacre missions all the players in the wing have to rank up to allied first, then they all have to get the missions and play together, and none of the factions can be in civil war state.
That’s quite a lot of pre-requisites, so I don’t think it’s exaggerated compared to other game loops.
That’s quite a lot of pre-requisites, so I don’t think it’s exaggerated compared to other game loops.
For what it's worth, allied with all factions is achievable in very short order, an hour at most[1] (incidentally, by running massacre missions), and as for states? Not hard to just jump to a different edge-case system and rinse-repeat. And given the right system, it's very simple to prevent a conflict state.
Worst-case scenario, you jump to another of the many systems where stacking is ideal.
Compared to other activities in the game, the investment is low at worst, trivial at best.
[1] Low-rep missions also need much lower kill counts, but thanks to how the payouts work, mix in some assassinations (which have the same spawn conditions) it's very easy to mash out some easy +++++rep missions rapidly.
Maybe I play the game all wrong, but it takes me a lot more than that, care to elaborate?
btw, did I miss something or was there a malding recently about underpaid combat?
You are right, there are definately examples of that. Jmanis post however is far from that, as his reasoning is according the established game world and aligned with ideas from FDev as we can see in past discussions, implementations and so on.
On thing can be considered sure, if no one would point at issues and everyone would just buy the next product, FDev (or any other dev company) would be more likely to not make all the changes necessary to improve a game. Hence some devs value feedback.
I have a vague feeling that Frontier are aware that everyone already isn't buying their 'next' product, given the success of EDO and JWE2 to date. They already receive plenty of feedback from the forum, but have an amazing ability to more often than not completely miss the point being made, if they take any notice at all.
We were told that balance passes were to be made, also that a statement would be made about the issues with the new planetary technology, some time ago. Perhaps they might occur at some point in the future, along with sensible interpretations of good feedback. (good being relative to ones stance to playing the game, naturally.)
"Frontier, I have made billions with cheese and exploits - now it is time you make the game even more tedious and unfun for players that come after me."
All right then. How about this:
""Frontier, I have made billions now myself - now it is time you make the game even more tedious and unfun for players that come after me."
The point is the same essentially. Now that you've reach the endgame it is time to make the game a slog for everyone else. We can't have upstart CMDRs reach my levels of progression. It's quite a toxic attitude, imo. Doesn't really matter how the average entitled end gamer reached their status.
Agreed 100%I'm one of those who did the massacre thing with some squad mates and it's not as simple as OP made it out to be.
There's a considerable amount of prep work to be done before you can start farming (same as most activities in ED in general).
So yeah, not as straight forward, but it does get considerably easier once you get the ball rolling.
- You have to identify a system which offers massacre missions that only targets 1 pirate faction in a neighboring system
- Target system should have a hazres nearby
- Must get to allied with all the factions to get the best rewards (can be done by taking rep rewards when turning in massacre missions)
- Your ships should be decently engineered for long session bounty hunting
- You have to sit in a station for about an hour to stack missions (longer if you really want to score the juiciest missions, but that will also take longer to complete)
- Alternatively, you can jump around different systems to stack missions from more than 5 factions targeting the same pirate faction but I prefer to stick with 1 spot for easier turning in
- Use a spreadsheet to manage your stack to keep the kills balanced
- Have friends (might be the hardest part for some people
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- Prepare to spend up to 2 hours pew-pewing
And for me, it's simply a fun change of pace from blasting rocks, hauling passengers, cargo, etc.
Now post the same in a thread about combat logging and watch the salt fly
This is perhaps not the best example. As far as I know, FD's position on combat logging [*] is clear. And also their inability to stop it in any meaningful way that will not do more harm than good.
[*] my translator makes it to Kampfholzeinschlag
They don't want to stop menu logging. But yeah, they can't stop the other sort of logging.
We all know that it's not the credits but the engineer mats that make up the new progression. The ships I unlocked with credits were rendered quite impotent over night.
Nobody should combat or Menu log as a group of PvP players will talk about you on their discord and put a red mark next to your name... How terrible!
Nobody should combat or Menu log as a group of PvP players will talk about you on their discord and put a red mark next to your name... How terrible!
They also have a reddit where they rage about it and talk poo poo about people who do it!
Insert Jeremy Carkson oh no anyway jpg.
I think the only reason they haven't done this is because everyone would just go back to Horizons for massacre stacking, and spending time to add new code to Horizons would be the last thing FDev want to do right now, I'm guessing.