Whoa. Why would I join Hudson? He's totally intolerant. He doesn't care one iota about his people. If you have a different point of view to Hudson you're an enemy as far as he's concerned. He doesn't care about raising the basic standard of living, closing the gap between the mega-rich Federal corporations and the trillions on the bread line, or eliminating the deplorable slave trade on the Federation's border worlds. He didn't even care about how Halsey really died, he just started pointing fingers without evidence. The man is only interested in starting a war. If anyone could persuade me to defect back to the Federation it would be Felicia Winters. She's calm and reasonable, bases her decisions on solid proof, and works towards and fairer and more equal society in the Federation.
Federal Powers are too weak!
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Whoa. Why would I join Hudson? He's totally intolerant. He doesn't care one iota about his people. If you have a different point of view to Hudson you're an enemy as far as he's concerned. He doesn't care about raising the basic standard of living, closing the gap between the mega-rich Federal corporations and the trillions on the bread line, or eliminating the deplorable slave trade on the Federation's border worlds. He didn't even care about how Halsey really died, he just started pointing fingers without evidence. The man is only interested in starting a war. If anyone could persuade me to defect back to the Federation it would be Felicia Winters. She's calm and reasonable, bases her decisions on solid proof, and works towards and fairer and more equal society in the Federation.
It's a shame that she offers absolutely nothing for her followers, but for a weapon that might or might not be useful. Her controlled space bonuses and rank 2 perk are downright awful. Sadly, this is what will decide which Powers are succesful in the end.
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Yea... the bonuses should really be reworked. Though i deem quite a lot i have read today as moaning on a high level - a bonus on Influence?! I would almost laugh if it weren't that sad. Always thought its either a Trade or a Combat Bonus on Rank 2.
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No, I'm saying that in an environment like the Imperial Senate, alliances between the various people in power would spring up and dissolve over time as and when their goals align. Far from being artificial or arbitrary, it could become a part of the PP environment itself; in fact, the votes you get for the various PP ratings could allow for a way to put this in the hands of the players. In my opinion, that could well make it more immersive and less arbitrary.
It might also be a way to bring the literary lore into the game itself, if handled right.
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I disagree. It seems arbitrary and deeply unfair.
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But... but... can't I have my cake and eat it too? Maybe Kahina's power could be officiated by her Patron's in a 'laissez faire' fashion while she did whatever you wanted in your novels. That way we could build up an amazing estate for her to return home to as she desired. xD
Oh yes that's so worse than:
- Somebody who don't mind killing her own father and arming independent forces against Imperial ones... but hey, she's for justice!
- A traditionalist, conservative slaver;
- A warmongering fascist;
- The princess peach
Oh sir... I'm afraid you've made a fatal error.
Let us engage in a hypothetical scenario for a moment where your own damning indictment for the four Imperial powers is proven to be wholly and entirely true. Even then, it would not excuse Hudson's faults.
Someone hasn't been reading Galnet. Only the Patreus one is anywhere close to accurate, and it's a really an imprecise and shallow definition of him.
Defection, the new fun fad this Winter?
Nice to know you re still considering it
Maybe you can get a discount on the Uniforms at the Taylors for every third defection
You also did a fatal error...
I was not excusing Hudson, I am well aware of his faults. I'm just saying that the Imperial powers are not a better choice.
Or: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy - Maybe I have committed a fallacy, but doesn't mean that my conclusion (Imperial powers are crap) is false.
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In fact I did not, since your tactic was indeed to deflect attention from Hudson by highlighting others who, in your view, were worse.
Oh please. Like I said, I make no secret of my belief in progressiveness, integrity, and calm reason. It's why I pledged to the Senator. The Senator knows my background. It was why he chose to persuade me to his cause. He saw an opportunity. Even then, he made sure I was investigated, and his officers assigned me duties accordingly - as any good officers would in their situation. The Senator is a blunt man, and he appreciates my bluntness in return. He knows what I fight for, and he knows that's why I fight for him. I may not do everything the Imperial way, but I tell the Senator the truth. Do you really think I would be so foolish as to lie to the Senator, tell him I don't agree with anyone else's policies, tell him I don't admire another leader's intelligence? For one thing, I'm arrow straight as they come; there's a reason bluntness worked in my case instead of smooth political manoeuvring. For another thing, unlike some, the Senator isn't so vain as to feel threatened when his commanders acknowledge an opponent's strengths. The Senator encourages us to question, and knows the danger of underestimating a rival. He doesn't appreciate sycophancy or foolishness. I make no secret of the fact that in my estimation Felicia Winters is intelligent, reasonable, and a competent leader, because I have nothing to hide. Unfortunately for Felicia Winters, she is part of the Federation, the great ouroboros, the snake that eats itself alive because no two politicians can agree and no voter is happy with their compromises. This is the Empire's great advantage compared to the Federation - in theory. Let's not turn the Empire into another ouroboros.
That one is biased from the point of view of a Patreus supporter, and has a lot of conjecture and conspiracy theory that has no evidence.
Torval is not a traditionalist; her faction represents Imperial Hedonists, who want to subvert the traditional Imperial Slavery with a flavour that provides less social safeguards and rights for the Imperial Slave. She gives massive economic advantage to her followers, because she disobeys Imperial Law in this area which allows for 'creation' of Imperial slaves so they are sold at a far cheaper rate and in greater numbers than elsewhere in the Empire.
Please note, I was a Federation Post Commander at the time, and not aligned to Senator Patreus. This was a report given to Red Comet Squadron, 142nd Federal Fighter Group under General Vaughan, in my capacity as commanding officer of such.
Also, you are quite right that Torval is not a traditionalist, in fact she has spoken out saying that the Empire should discard blind tradition if it no longer serves a useful purpose. So I'm not sure I would call her traditionalist at all.
Here's the quote from Torval: "[FONT="]We should honour our traditions, but not blindly. Just because we keep doing a thing doesn’t make it the right thing to do[/FONT][FONT="]."[/FONT]
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I just love Power Play. As a balcony observer. 