I was reading a bit about what happened in the Lugh war and found it quite interesting. I was wondering how many commanders actually fought in that war for the side of the Federation. Who out there was supporting the Federation in this struggle?
Federation Commanders in the Lugh War
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I did. Fought in the Combat Zones for Federation (top 5%) then left because I thought we'd won and there didn't seem to be anything else I could do...
There didn't seem to be any good way to interfere with the enemy's CG without picking up bounties - as it was a Federation system that would have meant negative rep with my own side
As I didn't have a trading ship then, and our other CG was so far away, I wasn't involved with that one
With hindsight, the odds were obviously stacked against us by the set up of the CGs
There didn't seem to be any good way to interfere with the enemy's CG without picking up bounties - as it was a Federation system that would have meant negative rep with my own side
As I didn't have a trading ship then, and our other CG was so far away, I wasn't involved with that one
With hindsight, the odds were obviously stacked against us by the set up of the CGs
They weren't stacked against the Federation. The goals were equal (actually, the CSG had an extra goal to divide the attention).
It was lost mainly because the trading goal was ignored and then lapped twice over.
Because you had no trading ship doesn't mean A) other Federation side players didn't have trading ships and B) Similar CSG players had trading ships to swap to.
I fought for the Federation. After the combat goal finished I thought the war is over as there where no other Fed GCs in Lugh and no indication in GalNet that there is an other GC that is important for the war in Lugh. Only after flying home and being surprised that there was nothing in GalNet about Feds winning the war I wondered what was going on. I read about the trade CG on the forum and headed right back and started trading weapons.
It was a lot of fun. The CSG crew added a good story to the game and gave me a reason to fight for the Feds. As a player I congratulate them to their victory. As a CMDR I think there will be a time when the Feds will wipe out this theocratic terrorist scum that brought such misery to the poor people of Lugh.
I hope that Frontier learned quite a bit form this CGs. There needs to be much more information. If CGs are part of a bigger event, then there should be an information about the other CGs at the end of each CG page so that players are aware of them. Hartsfield Market Galnet had constant information about the CSG CGs, but nothing about the Fed CG. The trading CG was only mentioned once in "global" GalNet.
Frontier really needs to work on the competing CG concept.
It was a lot of fun. The CSG crew added a good story to the game and gave me a reason to fight for the Feds. As a player I congratulate them to their victory. As a CMDR I think there will be a time when the Feds will wipe out this theocratic terrorist scum that brought such misery to the poor people of Lugh.
I hope that Frontier learned quite a bit form this CGs. There needs to be much more information. If CGs are part of a bigger event, then there should be an information about the other CGs at the end of each CG page so that players are aware of them. Hartsfield Market Galnet had constant information about the CSG CGs, but nothing about the Fed CG. The trading CG was only mentioned once in "global" GalNet.
Frontier really needs to work on the competing CG concept.
Yes it was unfortunately hugely broken. The air war was won by feds hands down, dominated. But this achieved nothing. Then because a lot of people play just to grind (some of my friends included) they swapped to play th3 other side. Then the crimson won the air war (wait... its already won. ..) and that counted... lol crimson had control of the skies. It was very badly run. The victory should have stopped the opposite sides air war. Hopedully they learn from that. Add to that both sides did trading in solo to a large extent. Not a good feeling at the end of it for me and my friends. But it was fun!! N in fairness all hell would have broken loose had crims lost the system.
i hope fd learnt a lot for future competitve goals. Make opposing goals finish each others goal when completed for a start.
i hope fd learnt a lot for future competitve goals. Make opposing goals finish each others goal when completed for a start.
Yeah I fought for the Feds, top 5% in both goals (combat and trade). I was one of the few who knew about both goals from the start. I concentrated on the combat goal first, but realised that the trading goal was lacking support, so I switched and worked on the trading goal before the combat goal had been completed. My mistake was not letting other Fed players know that the war was not over when the combat goal was completed, this will not happen again, I'll be posting it everywhere here next time 
Well that's funny, back during the event a lot of players were whining about how FD was overtly supporting the Feds by bringing over a capitol ship. Most of federal pilots went for bounty hunting and disregarded the trading goal, while the Lugh goals where evenly achieved. Also you seem to forget that a lot of federal pilots, thinking they won, started fighting for CSGs just for grinding, and actually might have helped it winning the war.
The truth is that none of us knows whether FD got involved in the events to help one side or another. People just speculate or complain with the hindsight, ie. their faction lost so the dev my have been plotting.
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OP, the shipping counter counted over 10,000 total ships through Lugh during the height of the war. This number remained in this area for more than 5 days. There are suppositions of numbers, but no one has any real hard numbers related to them. My estimates are that there were roughly 2000 Fighters for Lugh, with around 4000 fighting for the Federation.
Out of curiosity how did you get/estimate these figures? Cheers to CSGs by the way, Lugh was an amazing event, looking forward to a new one
Out of curiosity how did you get/estimate these figures? Cheers to CSGs by the way, Lugh was an amazing event, looking forward to a new one
It was combining what I knew, a solid number of those we knew we were allied with, and the in system population numbers. Honestly, Scientific, Wild Guesses, but with the 10,000 number it made sense. I could be off by a few hundred on the CSG side and a larger margin on the side of the Federation, but it 'feels' close.
I assisted the Federation in the Arms run missions
It wasnt broken, we just didnt understand the effects of the goals or the context.
Winning the Air War for the Federation gave them the opening to land troops, but due to the failure to complete the Arms collection goal, the ground forces were not ready, and then the defectors assisted the CSG winning back the sky and closing the door for the Federation Ground troops.
Meanwhile the CSG completed their Arms Goal(s), thus having the Troops to take the Hatfield Station, and completed the Intel Gathering Goal which I think was the hacking of the System defences network.
It wasnt broken, we just didnt understand the effects of the goals or the context.
Winning the Air War for the Federation gave them the opening to land troops, but due to the failure to complete the Arms collection goal, the ground forces were not ready, and then the defectors assisted the CSG winning back the sky and closing the door for the Federation Ground troops.
Meanwhile the CSG completed their Arms Goal(s), thus having the Troops to take the Hatfield Station, and completed the Intel Gathering Goal which I think was the hacking of the System defences network.
I fought for the Feds in both goals.
A pity that (1) we lost and (2) so many pilots switched sides later on.
I hope the rep system is improved in some way that severely punishes turncoats, like stripping them of any and all faction rank and tags them as wanted in any systems under the betrayed faction's jurisdiction.
In real world even a merc would be frowned upon if he fought in both sides of a war.
A pity that (1) we lost and (2) so many pilots switched sides later on.
I hope the rep system is improved in some way that severely punishes turncoats, like stripping them of any and all faction rank and tags them as wanted in any systems under the betrayed faction's jurisdiction.
In real world even a merc would be frowned upon if he fought in both sides of a war.
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I chatted with a few commanders who said they were doing all the goal for both sides to get maximum payout. I then asked if they would consider doing the CSG goals first :-D
depending on the goal, it was easier to climb the ranks for the CSG goals. (I wouldn't have known myself, only did CSG goals)