Elite / Frontier First Encounters combat help???

Hi, I found frontier easy to get to grips with but I could never get to grips with FFE combat. I can guarentee that I will be killed on starting a new game within 3 battles.

How on earth am I supposed to play this game??? Im taking my ship to Tititan system. I find myself furious at how hard the game instantly is. I used to play frontier and barely ever lose a battle.

I've always hated FFE because of this and never gave it a real chance. Can anyone help??

And whats with the text overlaying the console whilst on the map?!?!? What a load of old poop!!
 
FFE's combat setup is near-identical to FE2s, but sadly it does have a rather steep learning curve (as in a brick wall...)

The best advice I can give is to always keep a save close to hand, as for the first few battles you will get your rear end handed to you - hard. If you can, get yourself to some safer systems and trade your way up to a tougher ship so that you're able to cope with the combat a little better.
 
The galaxy map doesn't even tell you the danger level of the starter systems or at least the ones I'm going to. I'm disappointed in the game to be honest but I really wanna give it a chance. I'll try as you suggest and save my way out of it. Lol
 
What I typically do myself is when starting a new game, I fly over to Old Blackelk and do the Wiccan Ware race, picking up as many medicines as possible, setting Soholia as a mid-way point. Sell the Medicines there (via the BBS, not the shop) and head on to Ghandi in Alioth to finish the race.

Once that's done, run back & forth with medicines to Soholia until you're a couple months in (until the BBS message for Medicines has vanished - save before each run as Soholia's a pretty risky system in the starting ship). By this point you should (hopefully) have enough funds for a tougher ship. If not, move on south-east to Eta Cassiopea and you'll find loads of missions (civilian and military) heading to the next system directly south (AC+79o3888) - this destination system typically has a few pirates while Eta Cassiopea is safe from any hostiles (except mission-specific ones), which will help you raise funds very quickly.

After a few runs down that way, you should have more than enough funds for a pimped-out Cobra ready to do combat.
 
I would recommend searching youtube for the Frontier fundamentals videos by Jim plays games.

The same basic concepts apply, spend a little time trading to get some better gear; and then go bounty hunting ;)
 
Does anyone know if your PC can be too fast?

Do you think a fast PC effects gameplay? I've been dropping the speed of DOSBOX to try and emulate older computers, I'm wondering if a faster computer makes their ships move faster and fire at you quicker etc?
 
Pause...

I get a ship with a turrent, use the pause button, switch to turret view and use it to swing around and find the target, unpause and fire...
 
Ok, a bit of a late reply, but still...


Hi, I found frontier easy to get to grips with but I could never get to grips with FFE combat. I can guarentee that I will be killed on starting a new game within 3 battles.
That's quite good, actually, before I learned the ropes I could guarantee that I would be killed within 3 seconds from start of the first one.

How on earth am I supposed to play this game??? Im taking my ship to Tititan system. I find myself furious at how hard the game instantly is. I used to play frontier and barely ever lose a battle.
Because for all good things about Frontier its AI was *DUMB*. It barely maneuvered and couldn't hit the broad side of a gas giant with a laser (missiles were another thing, it used them with uncanny malice and cunning, far better than an average player).

FFE AI actually has a pretty good aim and moves around more.
Add the fact that you usually get combat alert mere kms from the enemies and if you don't know what you're doing and do it fast, you're meat.

The key thing is to evade first, try to get any clue about the situation immediately after. The very first thing is moving out of the line of fire and chances are just firing you main thruster will accomplish that for a second or two. Then it's just the game of coming up close without getting killed exploiting enemy inability to turn fast enough if you pass really close, not overshooting and popping them from the direction where they can't direct fire (rear, sides, top or bottom).

The only bed things are maneuvering assist that fires thrusters on its own to manage inertia, but gets in the way if you try to do something advanced or extreme (like chasing or escaping) and missiles that have improved homing AI. They are still dodgeable (I've seen a tutorial vid by a guy dodging five of them at once while explaining the flight techniques involved), but much harder to evade than those in Frontier.
And whats with the text overlaying the console whilst on the map?!?!? What a load of old poop!!
The game was released in what could be rather charitably described as mid-alpha stage. Quite a lot of things about it are not-quite-there.
 
What's so difficult? Bottom line - Don't get into battle until you can handle it. ;)

If I could avoid it I would. But since Battle comes to me and I don't go looking for it, I'm stumped.

I've got Dangerous Beta now anyway, it's much better. :D

Love the dogfighting gameplay.
 
Thank you for the tips DraQ! In Frontier I could blast ship after ship with minimal hull damage... This beast is totally different.
 
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