Fixing Animal Names

DragonNTiger

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Captain Callum said:
I agree looking at comparison images aswell:

Southern lion:
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Northern Lion:
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Planet Zoo Lion:
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Information from ZSL London notes that the West African lion is a recognised sub population of the northern lion but ingame we have the southern lion.
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Yep... here's my own source:

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The bottom three are the Northern Lion... note how none of them, including the West African Lion, look anything like the PZ lion. Meanwhile the Southern Lions look quite similar.
 

YesIndeed

YesIndeed
yoav_r said:
Worth noting that the Timber Wolf is not actually the entire Gray Wolf.

Decorations and name imply it's meant to be an american subspecies.

Range map implies the enture gray wolf.

However, its biomes, model and temprature range, whjch are the only factors affecting gameplay, imply it is an amalmagmation of all temperate subspecies if the grey wolf, which exckudes the hot climates wolves and the arctic wolf.

So it works as a eurasian wolf (yeah I know the model is not 100% accurate), but it can't be put in a desert zoo as the mexican or indian wolf.
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My dream would be that they change the model a little to look more like Eurasian Wolf and the give both the Eurasian and timber as 2 separate base game animals. They would also need to change the range map for them.

Though I feel like this wouldn't be hard I also in no way expect them to do it.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
DragonNTiger said:
Really? Because all the pictures of various lions I've seen leads me to believe our lion is the Southern Lion... and you'd have to be blind to think it should represent an Asian Lion; looks nothing like them.
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Captain Callum said:
I agree looking at comparison images aswell:

Southern lion:
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Northern Lion:
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Planet Zoo Lion:
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Information from ZSL London notes that the West African lion is a recognised sub population of the northern lion but ingame we have the southern lion.
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The Ingmar distribution fits the southern lion, as well as the Latin name
 

BananaLeech

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SalamAnders said:
That is what I meant. While English version isn't perfect, the versions in other languages seems much worse. I know the Danish version is quite bad
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I misunderstood and understood the opposite. My bad.

On the other hand, I can’t even imagine how bad it could get if the game is to be translated into Turkish as most Turkish players want.
 

Roxxsmom

Roxxsmom
Cynogale bennettii said:
A couple I can think of:

- Raccoon: Should be either 'common raccoon' or 'Northern raccoon' - there are three different raccoon species, and the exact identity of the Planet Zoo ones should be specified.

- Pygmy hippo: This may be a more personal one, and not such a high priority to others, but I cannot stand colloquialisms in animal names. I would much rather it be called 'pygmy hippopotamus'. It's especially annoying that the larger species is called 'hippopotamus', while the smaller has this colloquialism.
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You're right, and I wonder if this is because there was an issue with character limits or something for signs?

"Grizzly bear" is colloquial too, isn't it? I think biologists tend to just call it the North American brown bear. I imagine it's probably challenging for the developers, though, since the game is sold and played in different countries. They may call a given animal by a different common name, even in different English speaking countries, let alone in different languages where the common name must be translated. But AFAIK, rhino, hippo etc. are shortened nicknames everywhere.
 
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Eletan888

Eletan888
I have my fingers crossed that some of these common/scientific names will be updated or changed in the next update. I have never wanted to read the an upcoming update's notes more!
 

DrBurrito

DrBurrito
Eletan888 said:
(or ideally just "Lion" for my personal preference)
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This is probably the best solution available. Not only does the in-game lion look too generic to be assigned any subspecies or subpopulation, but also the Zoopedia range map is for the entire species. Even includes their range in India.

The only problem would be scenario dialogue(s) involving the West African lion in particular, which if I remember correctly is specified in the tutorial by Nancy.
 

Eletan888

Eletan888
DrBurrito said:
The only problem would be scenario dialogue(s) involving the West African lion in particular, which if I remember correctly is specified in the tutorial by Nancy.
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Oh, I didn't think of that. I doubt Frontier would change it even if that wasn't an problem.

I really find it annoying how, especially in the base game, there are so many animals that are classified at the subspecies/population level for no reason! Luckily most of the DLCs haven't done this.
 

DrBurrito

DrBurrito
Eletan888 said:
I really find it annoying how, especially in the base game, there are so many animals that are classified at the subspecies/population level for no reason! Luckily most of the DLCs haven't done this.
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It is true that if an in-game model looks generic enough, it is best to stick to species level ranks. It makes animals much more versatile.

What's interesting is, we have the exact opposite issue in the game as well. By that I mean in-game models that resemble a particular subspecies, and have a range map for that subspecies, but named after the entire species. The African buffalo is a prime example to that.
 

peafowl

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Omg bruh idek I have it set to my first language and I am TELLING YOU.. Half the time when i see the list of animals without the animal icon i have NO idea what it is. It's nonsense. I just sit and guess. What the hell. They just named the binturong our word for "viverrid".
 

Captain Callum

Captain Callum
peafowl said:
Omg bruh idek I have it set to my first language and I am TELLING YOU.. Half the time when i see the list of animals without the animal icon i have NO idea what it is. It's nonsense. I just sit and guess. What the hell. They just named the binturong our word for "viverrid".
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Well it's not wrong calling a Binturong a viverrid but very confusing
 

Eletan888

Eletan888
DrBurrito said:
It is true that if an in-game model looks generic enough, it is best to stick to species level ranks. It makes animals much more versatile.

What's interesting is, we have the exact opposite issue in the game as well. By that I mean in-game models that resemble a particular subspecies, and have a range map for that subspecies, but named after the entire species. The African buffalo is a prime example to that.
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Eeeekk! I just looked at the African buffalo situation. I didn't know that African forest buffalos were the same species! Yeah, they should definitely be renamed to the Cape buffalo. The inconsistencies with the animals and their taxonomy is honestly baffling.
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
peafowl said:
Omg bruh idek I have it set to my first language and I am TELLING YOU.. Half the time when i see the list of animals without the animal icon i have NO idea what it is. It's nonsense. I just sit and guess. What the hell. They just named the binturong our word for "viverrid".
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Danish right?
 
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