Yeah it is a known issue. So just double check with the system map first before travel.
Engineers Forcing players to kill soft targets or cops for materials
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Yeah it is a known issue. So just double check with the system map first before travel.
Well then simply don't do it... Just put up with waiting for missions to spawn, thank god I'm not like you & actually enjoy exploring planets, couldn't think of anything worse than doing something I don't enjoy.
Other than yttrium it is unnecessary and even then you can turn in exploration data to avoid having to farm it to grind the ranks and go straight to polonium which is easy to find off missions from boom states.
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cutthroat galaxy... didn't you read the memo?
Thank you! This is actually very helpful =]
To be honest, I'm scared to try and reproduce your results - I can already see myself driving around in the SRV for hours without finding any xD but, yeah, that's more a psychological problem on my part. I guess i just strongly dislike the SRV driving.
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My bad! You're right! I forgot the SRV for a moment there.
I have other good locations bookmarked, ran a search for Yttrium and Eta Draconis appeared, lots of people claiming it spawns excellent resources, I was sceptical until I flew out there myself. Another planet nearby has Polonium.
Try the Crater coordinates I posted, the area is huge. If for whatever reason you don't find anything, recall your ship and fly 20 or 30km away.
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Thanks! Which one is the "polonium-rich" planet? ^^ that's the stuff FSB and Mossad use to trademark-assassinate former employees, right? XD
Planet A4 in the same system - I haven't checked it out, others are reporting a good supply
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they used Polonium on the Hamas leader in Dubai, they also used it on Yasser Arafat.
Thanks again =] and, yeah, the stuff sounded rather familiar ^^ barely a speck of dust in someones drink...
I only kill those "Seeking...." ships in anarchy systems or Federal Logistics at Bluford Orbital. For combat materials, I'll go to a conflict zone or go and undermine a system.
Funny that you'd mention these - I caught one of the Seekers in a CZ, yes, a CZ of all places - everyone hated me for shooting it, despite it being lawless and not being a member of either of the combating factions. That was all rather strange.
This is actually one of the few things that I haven't quite fully accepted about Engineers. It's actually so immersion-destroying that I try not to think about it much because for me Elite has gone from a "space sim" (pre-2.1) to just another "MMO" (2.1) because I'm no longer interacting with the "universe" the way I want to interact. Instead I'm doing whatever tasks are "required" to "level up" my ship. Of all the changes they introduced in 2.1 the need to do "illegal" activities to get certain mats has to have been the single worst idea they could have come up with because many players will lose interest in the game entirely once their immersion is destroyed. For me personally I tried resisting these activities but I finally decided if they were going to railroad me into certain activities I'd do the bare minimum of those activities required to progress. For me that has also meant "creative" interpretations of what I'm actually doing in the game. Some "rationalization" I've come up with have included:
Bulk-trading Imperial Slaves? No, they're actually just poor graduate students or unpaid interns who need work.
Blowing up "helpless T9s"? No, they were smuggling weapons in war zones, and I put a stop to it.
Smuggling contraband to unlock the Dweller? No, I was just establishing "credibility" by selling combat stabilizers as a "privateer".
And so on. In my case I'm putting "context" to those activities to keep the game enjoyable. It has however definitely taken the game down a notch for me (several notches actually) because the devs knew exactly what they were doing when the locked certain mats to certain activities, and they shouldn't have done it. Much like the RNG system, it's lazy, and once you start railroading players in an "open universe" sim you've destroyed the entire purpose of the game. At this point however I still enjoy the rest of the game enough that I'm willing to "creatively" interpret what the game has given me.
Some Materials dont Drop in USS.
And Authority Ship Materials as well as Transporter Ship Materials etc etc.
Honestly said its Rubbish.
I agree with the OP on this.
This whole Engineer System was (pretty obviously) made to Force People into Playing all Aspects of the Game.
And well guess what. People dont want to do this. They want to Play their Chosen Role.
And Sorry but an Explorer who wants an FSD Upgrade doesnt want to go around Killing People for Materials.
Neither does an Bounty Hunter want to Reequip his Ship and Go Mining in some Ice Ring or go down to a Planet and do Surface Mining.
This System is Rubbish. Thats all there is too it.
Its an Desperate attempt to Include some more Grind and Force People into doing different Stuff.
And Authority Ship Materials as well as Transporter Ship Materials etc etc.
Honestly said its Rubbish.
I agree with the OP on this.
This whole Engineer System was (pretty obviously) made to Force People into Playing all Aspects of the Game.
And well guess what. People dont want to do this. They want to Play their Chosen Role.
And Sorry but an Explorer who wants an FSD Upgrade doesnt want to go around Killing People for Materials.
Neither does an Bounty Hunter want to Reequip his Ship and Go Mining in some Ice Ring or go down to a Planet and do Surface Mining.
This System is Rubbish. Thats all there is too it.
Its an Desperate attempt to Include some more Grind and Force People into doing different Stuff.
People paid for the content. Are you daft or something?
Leaving aside the "forced to do it" question, the slaughtering of innocent pilots is a turnoff for me too. Not everyone is invested in roleplay and that's fine. For those who are, saying "go to an anarchy system and shoot them there" doesn't cut it.
I don't refuse to shoot clean traders because I don't want a bounty. I refuse to do so because killing people who've done nothing to deserve it is morally indefensible to me.
You interdict me and start shooting? You are in a conflict zone on the opposite side? You are wanted for piracy and murder? Bring it on!
You are a clean pilot hauling legal commodities? You have a 200cr bounty for being rammed by the Feds? Be about your business, no matter how badly I want chemical distilleries.
I don't refuse to shoot clean traders because I don't want a bounty. I refuse to do so because killing people who've done nothing to deserve it is morally indefensible to me.
You interdict me and start shooting? You are in a conflict zone on the opposite side? You are wanted for piracy and murder? Bring it on!
You are a clean pilot hauling legal commodities? You have a 200cr bounty for being rammed by the Feds? Be about your business, no matter how badly I want chemical distilleries.
boom systems spawn wanted traders, which are transporting illegal goods. justsayin.
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I have several level 4 and 5 upgrades on my ships already. I never grinded, i never fired a shot to get them. The game allows so many different approaches to get your needed stuff together. If you dont want this, then there is always a that. If not now, then there will be the time. F.e. until Engineers and the new mission system wereintroduced, i had flown exactly 2 missions since the original beta... I didnt like them, now they are fun. I always wanted a federal vessel, but never got one, because i never got the rank. Now i am looking forward to fly the missions needed. I make that a goal and it will be fun to reach.
I consider the Engineers update one of the best so far. It makes the game more accessible, offers a lot more options and adds a lot of flavor and life to the game universe. The trick is to play open minded and without time pressure. Allow yourself the time to look, dont rush through this awesome game.
I usually play 6 to 10 hours a week. Not much in relation to many other players. The one thing i make sure is, that all my game sessions are fun. Thats it.
I consider the Engineers update one of the best so far. It makes the game more accessible, offers a lot more options and adds a lot of flavor and life to the game universe. The trick is to play open minded and without time pressure. Allow yourself the time to look, dont rush through this awesome game.
I usually play 6 to 10 hours a week. Not much in relation to many other players. The one thing i make sure is, that all my game sessions are fun. Thats it.
If the Feds scan me when I'm hauling Onionhead they don't start shooting. If hauling illegal goods is a fine for players and a bounty for NPCs then there's a separate issue there.
Regardless, I will go all Judge Dredd on people who murder or pirate. Not people who haul illegal goods.
I am willing to concede that in a galaxy where flying over a landing pad is a death sentence that maybe I am doing it wrong by not showing zero tolerance for the smallest infractions.
Again, if you don't want to do the roleplay that's perfectly fine. Telling me that "he's a bad man with his Onionhead so fill your boots with materials" is not going to fly.
Shame all of these little rules are not even hinted at anywhere in the game.