I blaze my own trail, but in a way that is entertaining to me. I suggest you experiment a bit instead knocking your head against a brick wall in the hope it will feel better in the future.
Nope, there are plenty that enjoy the mission system.
Frontier cant deliver.
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I blaze my own trail, but in a way that is entertaining to me. I suggest you experiment a bit instead knocking your head against a brick wall in the hope it will feel better in the future.
With respect, I've been playing for nearly 2,000 hours and have more than 30 G5'd ships. I assure you, I know how to get around with minimum time spent. I did not post my thought in hopes of a critique of how to fly places faster. Rather to speak to an issue that I believe the game has: TRAVEL time in ED and respect for players LIFE time.
1.) I started from near Maia (though most of my time was spent in the bubble)
2.) I needed to find and re-open long-closed tabs for tools to find the right ship at a discount at the closest location, with reasonably updated information.
3.) I need to plan the trip so as to waste as little time as possible
4.) I needed to re-open said tools to go to a different place than I bought the ship from in order to get the discounted thrusters, shields, and core internals.
5.) I had to make sure the parts I bought from the first place (which actually had very limited outfitting options for the ship despite selling it) could actually get me to the station in a system that had the better selection of parts.
6.) I had to fly from wherever I was about 200 LY (give or take? I don't remember; i just went) in said Type 10 to Farseer, while fighting sleep. (because nothing to do but scoop and jump)
Total time spent was about 2 hours with 75%-85% of that time spent in transit, with nothing offered to actually DO during that transit other than scooping and making the next jump or flying the 2k LS to a given station. Imagine how long this effort would have taken if I used only in-game tools, by the way. lmao.
None of that is up for debate or discussion, and sorry if I confused you with my intention. The only discussion to be had is whether this is the best possible scenario for where our time spent can be balanced...or if some revision is in order. I personally think that the less time I can spend in super cruise where again there is NOTHING to do (with great respect to GalNET and the very occasional interdiction) the better. I don't feel like game players should be dependent on a second screen with Netflix, their televisions, audio books, or physical books to offset the sheer lack of nothing to do while in Supercruise. Unless Supercrusie itself gets a heavy influx of features that make it compelling, interesting, and can help push gameplay forward, or even something like Autopilot, I don't see why it should represent more than 25%-30% of the gameplay experience within the main or Colonia bubbles (outside the bubbles are a different story, of course). I just don't. Though if you are happy with the travel / gameplay time balance we currently have...well that's cool for you at least.
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Personally I don't mind the travel times at all. For me it all adds to the experience.
Stop being childish.
Same.
6-8 months ago I would have said something different. I didn't like all the jumping earlier in my career in Elite, but I've gotten used to it and it's become part of the experience. And what changed my mind was when I played Mass Effect Andromeda. There's no travel time at all. Just point and click and watch loading screen. Now, that's anti-immersive as heck. I stopped playing mostly because I wasn't flying in space at all.
So now, I'm out in deep space, and most of the things I'm doing is exploring by... jumping around between systems.
Sorry if you were under the impression that the mission system is popular. It isn't. It's shallow and serves as nothing more than a means to and end for most players. Though it's possible that the problem is in the gameplay loops that these missions feature rather than the mission board itself. Though I will also say that relationship development with faction NPCs is also about as bare bones as it gets.
I think you are correct but I doubt things will change. Makes me laugh though, the 'so you want it to be EvE, go play EvE' comments. Take away the space theme and that list could be employed in any MMO. Even WoW has a player economy.
If its anything compelling, interesting or dynamic its 'this is not eve'.. People have bleating this line out for years, its not eve, its not eve, its not eve.. How very dreary.
Here is the thing, and this is coming from an 100% Open player: anyone who claims a must-fix is the removal of Solo and PG modes is basically saying that FD must force others to play with him. It isn't a remotely interesting suggestion, and anything based on it can be dismissed off-hand. The different modes are part of the core of ED, for better or worse. Demanding it be changed is like demanding CoD should include more chess. Maybe you could discuss it for the next game, but the current game has been sold with the promise of different modes that are here to say. Simple as that.
Ho do you know it isn't popular. I see very few people complaining about apart from the couple of regulars. Unless you have spoken to every player or the majority of players then I call it bull.
And many dont, its not an argument either way. A better argument is that most games, including previous Elite games, had a better mission system. By far. Which suggests that ED can be improved a lot upon in that aspect. Which would be welcome to all, even those who like the current implementation. From my perspective the missions should generate way better 'local story lines'. 'Hello cmdr [insert name]! Please [insert random activity] for [insert random quantity] in [insert random system within 20LY] because of [insert current faction state].' is not that amazing. Chained missions are a start, but that they need to happen more often, and be chained more sensibly, and have a more noticable consequence on something.
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I don't deny it could be better, but to say that nobody likes it is just false even saying the majority don't like it is rubbish as no one knows.
I agree with your local story lines, that would be pretty good. It could be what they are ramping up towards with the chained missions. Thankfully the mission system is getting better with pretty much every update.
I also never said the mission system was amazing. I just said I got a lot of enjoyment out of it and I suspect a lot of others do too. It's not awful, but it isn't the best thing since sliced bread either.
Not a fault of the game design but depending on the ship you are in it can take a variable amount of time to return to the bubble.
Not entirely necessary, if you want to spend time to try and save money that is YOUR choice, not a problem with ED per se. However, there may be new in-game tools to help with this in the Beyond series of updates - if I understand things correctly.
Fastest trip to the closest engineer in the galaxy map normally does a good enough job. Especially since the maximum route length is now 1000 Ly, plotting routes around the bubble should be fine.
Again not entirely necessary...
Sounds more like planning issues to me more than a fault with the game per se.
If you were that tired, then that was most likely your main problem.
Overall, while it may be non-debatable about the situation you started in - it sounds more like most of the issues are of your own making rather than problems with ED per se.
Once you hit Elite in one rank or another, Shinrata is a one stop shop - ok, maybe not the cheapest but is it really time efficient to chase around penny pinching after you have reached that point. Earlier on in the game, it is far more important but the T10D is an expensive ship and if you can afford it then you should perhaps already have at least one Elite rank.
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You ignored the bit about having to accept mission availability being lower... blazing your own trail does not mean you are entitled to a mission board stuffed mainly with missions you are interested in doing. It means picking and choosing what you do from what is available, which the current system does allow (i.e. there is no compulsory path of progression as such).
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I kind of agree,the story isn't accessible enough.
All this "be here at a certain point in space" malarky is not engaging enough and you are required to go on a forum to find out the next place you need to go.
Some sort of hand holding is required just to lead the player down the story arc within the game,it wouldn't take much,just a message in my inbox would suffice.
I'd go a step further and put a button in that message for bookmarking the next point of interest with a special marker, along with a special journal for those messages, since they often get deleted in a rush when you're looking for something else.
You missed my point entirely. PVE content is not at all what this game needs more of. ED needs to be more player driven. A true sandbox, open world experience.
Just because the map is huge doesnt mean its open world. This is a theme park through and through. Its all quest driven PVE content.
We need players to be able to interact with the environment (ie. Control space, build, trade, manufacture). We dont need more meaningless PVE
Improvements to the PvE content benefit everybody.
No thanks. I do not want to see any of that in the game. Dreadful idea. And that doesn't make it a true sand box. The game is already a true sand box, what you want is a completely different type of sand box.