Well, people have devoted literally biblical devotion to considerably older documents.
Frontier discusses walking in ships in Dev Plan
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Well, people have devoted literally biblical devotion to considerably older documents.
No. Because I dont give a damn about visions and look at what's delivered. If you believe some vision you'll go 100% disappointed because that's the inspiration that willl never be met.
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I dunno about you but if I order a taxi and pay it to take me to McDonald's then that is exactly what I expect .... Or if that can't happen for some reason I expect to be told why and want to know what the alternate destination will be... Btw this was your analogy not mine.
Well that is fair enough and your choice..BUT remember . If NO ONE had bought into the vision however there is a chance we would not be here debating it .
FD had delivered precisely nothing when they told us they needed money to get the game made.
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It's not common player's job to finance game development - at least not prototype and concept stage. If early access has something to show it's still enough of a risk for the consumer to buy in.
OP is not completely wrong. Yes, it is an old video and AFAIK DB never says space-legs is going to happen, he just says something like "it's something we'd like to have". Like ice-worlds, like a Panther Clipper, like a story-based (Thargoid) game narrative, like space-legs, dynamic capital ships (remember that?), Scavengers, ship-boarding, etc, etc, etc,.
But the fact remains, DB used his claims to get his funding, lots of people signed on, he got his funding (and much more) but then did not deliver. OK, it is cool for a while, seeing new planets, flying the ships and working to get them but, what then? Endlessly mine for credits? Endless bang-bang, pew-pew? Endless jump-HONK, jump-HONK? What do you all think you are going to do with space-legs? WALK AROUND?? Sounds about as much fun as driving around randomly in the SRV.
DB has delivered what he wanted but, not necessarily what a lot of the fan/player-base wanted.
For me, "a mile wide and an inch deep" perfectly describes the game. The forum is more fun than playing the game at this point. o7
But the fact remains, DB used his claims to get his funding, lots of people signed on, he got his funding (and much more) but then did not deliver. OK, it is cool for a while, seeing new planets, flying the ships and working to get them but, what then? Endlessly mine for credits? Endless bang-bang, pew-pew? Endless jump-HONK, jump-HONK? What do you all think you are going to do with space-legs? WALK AROUND?? Sounds about as much fun as driving around randomly in the SRV.
DB has delivered what he wanted but, not necessarily what a lot of the fan/player-base wanted.
For me, "a mile wide and an inch deep" perfectly describes the game. The forum is more fun than playing the game at this point. o7
To be fair, everything Frontier told us about during the kickstarter, and the DDF and afterwards, was all under the "subject to change" understanding.
Over the years, that part of all the things they talked about has been forgotten, and people have taken what Frontier said as "things we'd like to do" and Chinese-whispered them into "things Frontier promised".
...those kids grow up with daddy issues and end up on the pole.
Don't lie to your kids people!
It's a stick with which to beat Frontier, when they don't deliver exactly what the vocal minority demand.
Can't believe you managed to start a mini-argument about whether going to McDonald's was going to happen or not, and more importantly, who was driving...!!
Nice one mate!Absolutely and I (hope) I never use the term promised. However until we hear otherwise they are still things they would.like to do and are working towards. If it's such a minor issue then communicating changes should be fine right?
Calling people children for wanting FD to update us on the original design plan? I think you worded it precisely to get a reaction. I don't mind either way, am not salty with you over it but I think you are being less than honest there!
The best ones are unintented mate lol!
In that case you missed many of the other points I was looking to make, but that's OK, because I incorrectly used "promise", the rest of my post is not worth reading I guess. If this was a "proposal" then I guess Frontier have been right all along, like all the other "proposals" they made as part of the kick starter campaign...
I've been here a while, I am very familiar with Frontier, more so than many who post on here, and yes, they have a well deserved reputation for falling short of the expectations they instilled in the community, but I also try to reign back the community, mainly to avoid situations where the community criticizes Frontier when it's not fair of them to do so.
The claim that Frontier "promised" something, is not a new claim, and has its roots in the kickstarter, when people confused the FAQ or the videos as being promises, so you're not the first and not the last to confuse matters.
We all make mistakes, me more than others, so I hope you'll forgive the patronising tone of this comment, I honestly don't mean it in such a manner.
When five years isn't long enough...
Who cares? At least that was an obvious scam from the start from my perspective – credit where credit is due.How long has Star Citizen been in development?