Frontier, you have a major problem:

[IndigoWyrd]

Nope, he's not talking about me. Thread it about someone else - just happens to have my name in title for some reason.

(Not that I disagree with the premise, as the original post raises valid points, but I'm not fed up with things yet).

Y'know what I'd actually like to hear? A good, solid, 10-minute Obsidian RAnt.

I'm not a follower, but I have seen a video or two over the past couple years, and Ant is so soft-spoken, I can't help but think it would be shockingly amusing to hear ya bent out of shape about something - anything. Got one to share? Or are you just so chill you'd frost over if you didn't keep moving?

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

I see max factor still spreading his "complex game design arguments" with the old i never grind, there is only grind if you want to nonsense.

I see the lies continue to be said about me.

 

[GG7]

Is this a doom thread?

Pretty much.

There are plenty of us out here who can both praise and criticize ED within the span of 5 minutes. I have always called a spade a spade. The game does some stuff really well, and other stuff really badly. Then there is some stuff that it did really well that it now does really badly thanks to an update.

There! I think that about sums it all up nicely.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Are you not defending the grind here?

As for again, and again. It was pertaining to the need to rerun the Guardian gauntlet for each blue print shard. Its like that quote I posted the other day.

"a powerful Long Term Incentive on its own doesn’t make it a grind. In addition the player must be performing the same actions over and over, actions that they have already mastered. Walking down a short hallway and opening a single door to find your friend isn’t a grind. Walking down the hallway for 30 minutes and then opening no less than 10 doors is a grind, because you will have already masted the activity long before you complete the challenge."

A game like The Witcher 3, uses a lot of hand crafted story telling to hide repetitive mechanics behind something new and interesting.

No. I am not as you have zero choice but to do the repeatedly without any kind of variation in the slightest. Basically to get that stuff, it is forced grind. I am 100% against that.

Maybe you should see what he calls busy work.

 

[ALEX CAOS]

Just played an hour to find HGE for dirty drive found non. and i know how to do.

To mutch grind even to get your modules to same level than before patch. 10 HGE material to max and you have to cause you cant transfer without loosing progress. Same for new moduls repeat repeat repat.... log in log of or speed weeks.

The fun is gone, i can´t blame players anymore for using exploits its so damm unbalenced and grindy. Took me months to go to Duke now you can do on a weakend and mabe tomorrow it will be months again.

For Material Login log out game at Barnecles and daves Hope.

Should i fisit 28 Barnecle sites to get 1 new Weapon... without third party info and tools this wouldn´t even be posible. Even if you dont log in and out with the info. It would take weeks.

FDV this is no fun, game don´t feel rewarding it feels only rewarding if you exploit.

 

[Yaffle]

Dupe thread as per the OP - please post in there.