FSD Boost issue?

[Deleted member 38366]

Did the OP by any chance try to boost and plot route from LALANDE 25224 (northern Neutron Highway entry Gateway from the bubble) ?

If so, that's a special oddball since the Neutron is actually the B Star in this System - but has the higher mass, hence that's where the Ship arrives.

Not being a Primary Neutron System in the Galaxy Map confuses the Jet Cone Route Boost Plotter and hence it's impossible to get a boosted Jump plotted from this very System.
Under such rare circumstances, it's required to plot a single, manual jump out of this System.

 

[Iron Golem]

Fastest route + use jet cone boost should allow your plotted route to include Neutron Stars along the way. I’ve found it very useful in the past, not so much in the Bubble as it does take you to WD systems.

OP - If you’re an EDMC user I can highly recommend the Spansh route plotter app. Very easy to download and use. Just Ctrl V into your Gal map for each jump. As a VR user it’s brilliant as I just need to say “Ctrl V” and it does it for me. Maybe not what you want if you’re roaming but for the neutron highway I find it much better than the Spansh website (I may be well behind everyone else on this but it’s new to me,)

I've been using Spansh for years not the problem here. Nor is it a problem with the in game tool. I had no route plotted and got a boost from a neutron that wasn't the primary star (Mapping a planet near it). Some kind of glitch or something.

 

[Iron Golem]

Did the OP by any chance try to boost and plot route from LALANDE 25224 (northern Neutron Highway entry Gateway from the bubble) ?

If so, that's a special oddball since the Neutron is actually the B Star in this System - but has the higher mass, hence that's where the Ship arrives.

Not being a Primary Neutron System in the Galaxy Map confuses the Jet Cone Route Boost Plotter and hence it's impossible to get a boosted Jump plotted from this very System.
Under such rare circumstances, it's required to plot a single, manual jump out of this System.

Not this specific system but the system I was in the neutron was the secondary star, is this the culprit?

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Not this specific system but the system I was in the neutron was the secondary star, is this the culprit?

Yes, that's what can cause this issue as well for all I know.

The in-game Neutron Plotter seems to be tied to the Galaxy Map Primary Stars only , hence it fails when the A Star isn't the Neutron.
It then just doesn't recognize the already-boosted condition and seemingly ignores it.

 

[Iron Golem]

I've run into this too once or twice (out of however many hundreds of boosted jumps I've made). Although in my case, I was still able to make the jump I wanted. I just had to manually select (select not plot route) the destination system. The routing logic just refused to acknowledge that I had the boosted range.

I was not able to make a single boosted jump out whether trying to do one jump on galaxy map or by plotting long routes. Can you put more detail into what you mean by manually select and not plot.

Yes, that's what can cause this issue as well for all I know.

The in-game Neutron Plotter seems to be tied to the Galaxy Map Primary Stars only , hence it fails when the A Star isn't the Neutron.
It then just doesn't recognize the already-boosted condition and seemingly ignores it.

So any boost off a non primary Neutron is a ghost boost that you cannot actually use?

I did notice when I would use the option of plotting a jumponium boost it would plot those out with no problems.

 

[Northpin]

Can you put more detail into what you mean by manually select and not plot.

Just select the destination star in the Galaxy map without pressing PLOT button
So select the star, close the galaxy map
engage fsd

 

[Iron Golem]

Just select the destination star in the Galaxy map without pressing PLOT button
So select the star, close the galaxy map
engage fsd

I did not know you could do this, I would even plot my single star jumps. Thank you Cmdr, I don't know if this would circumvent the secondary neutron ghost boost, but good to know nonetheless!

 

[Deleted member 38366]

So any boost off a non primary Neutron is a ghost boost that you cannot actually use?

I did notice when I would use the option of plotting a jumponium boost it would plot those out with no problems.

You can and it'll work - but it'll have to be a manually set jump (set Destination vs. Plot Route in Galaxy Map).
After doing the Neutron Boost in such a System , use the actual Range indication shown in the Galaxy Map to determine the precise Jumprange, which will be correctly indicated.
Then choose and set a manual jump Destination within range to set your Jump Target. The boosted Jump is now possible.

-- edit --
Ninja'd by Northpin already

 

[Iron Golem]

You can and it'll work - but it'll have to be a manually plotted jump (set Destination vs. Plot Route in Galaxy Map).
After doing the Neutron Boost in such a System , use the actual Range indication shown in the Galaxy Map to determine the precise Jumprange, which will be correctly indicated.
Then choose and set a manual jump Destination within range to set your Jump Target. The boosted Jump is now possible.

Thanks everyone who helped and participated in this. Funny how even this far in there's little basic things to still pick up and learn.

Mystery solved. Ghost Boost useable.

 

[Lightspeed]

Well solved, FalconFly

 

[Phantom Dancer]

Just plot a single jump manually, 250+ LYs away. That should do the trick. Don't plot a route.

 

[Phantom Dancer]

Ah, too late...

 

[Iron Golem]

Ah, too late...

Good knowledge is worth repeating! Appreciate the thought.

 

[Iron Golem]

Last two times this happened to me, I wasn't able to plot anything beyond my standard distance.

If I get a chance to test this again I will post, I did not know about the selection then jump yourself though. That spot is a thousand light years behind me so I only know im not going back !

 

[Screemonster]

Can't you target the star manually instead of actually "plotting" a route and jump that way when this happens? No plot route button, just select it.

 

[Screemonster]

Tried that a bunch of times. I select the single jump then the plotter kicked in. Wheel spins for a few minutes and rejects the jump. I was out past Beagle Point, so I thought I might have been stuck there. Eventually found a route around the star I was trying to jump to. Funny thing was I had just passed through the system and scanned the entire thing.

Not the route plotter button, don't plot a route at all. The button on the far left that just selects the star without plotting a route.

 

[Iron Golem]

Not the route plotter button, don't plot a route at all. The button on the far left that just selects the star without plotting a route.

Thats the confusion I had earlier as well. Just select the star without plotting the route and engage your fsd. I havnt actually had the problem again to try this yet but suspect itll be the fix.

 

[Iron Golem]

I'll try that, and pay better attention. Still have about 500 jumps to Colonia...

Let us know if that fixes it for you.

 

[Maolagin]

This may be redundant, but since nobody has posted one yet, here's a screenshot.

Normally you hit the "plot route" button - the one that's in red here.

In this case you press the "select" button, which I've circled in blue. Easy to forget it's there, since depending on what you're doing, you might wind up never having a reason to use that button, so all your muscle memory is tuned to breeze right past it.

 

[Iron Golem]

This may be redundant, but since nobody has posted one yet, here's a screenshot.

Normally you hit the "plot route" button - the one that's in red here.

In this case you press the "select" button, which I've circled in blue. Easy to forget it's there, since depending on what you're doing, you might wind up never having a reason to use that button, so all your muscle memory is tuned to breeze right past it.

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Not redundant at all and will be around for years for other people to search and learn. So many old threads here I have pulled game knowledge and answers from.