I'm okay with leaving w32, everything else goes to this direction. aka: Evolution :v
And if it can help to get DX12/Vulkan faster it's even better
And if it can help to get DX12/Vulkan faster it's even better
News Future support for Win 32 and DX10
- Thread starter David Braben
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Does this mean it wont run on my Speccy or BBC anymore ? This is as bad as when you stopped supporting my 5/14" format. ED
This is as bad as when you stopped supporting my 5/14" format. EDSame
Same. Additionally, I fall somewhere between "power user" and "advanced user," for lack of better terms, and don't find that OS really restricts me from a whole lot of things that I want it to do. I want the OS to run the way I want and I can't say that it doesn't.
Same. Additionally, I fall somewhere between "power user" and "advanced user," for lack of better terms, and don't find that OS really restricts me from a whole lot of things that I want it to do. I want the OS to run the way I want and I can't say that it doesn't.
The problem, if I read the OP correctly, is that bug squashing, and maintenance are to costly, thus the 'consolidation'. As long as legacy means 'as is in perpetuity'....no problem. If there is a required support for it then, not so much.
As far as the change goes...the numbers are small enough that the problem should be easily repaired for those falling short...particularly with a 6 month lead time.
Well. I think for those 2% a partial refund could be eligible as an OPTION. That leaves some place for fraudulent activity though. And you CMDR data will be erased (inacessible) - so not so many peeople will want that option.
I personally think that changing minimal requirements during a 10-year game is perfectly good and much better, than trying to ride a dead horse.
I personally think that changing minimal requirements during a 10-year game is perfectly good and much better, than trying to ride a dead horse.
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I think pretty much everyone is in favor of dropping 32 bit from a development standpoint. But what does need to be addressed is how this affects players who don't upgrade and would prefer to stick with season 1 and continue playing. Obviously they won't get any more updating at some point, but would rolling old seasons into the base game for purchase mean that at that point they are cut off? Does this affect their being able to still participate in their limited scope within the game universe?
Sure, the easy answer is to tell them to update their system. But the point is, is that required for network viability? Why CAN'T someone play 1.x as the game goes on?
Sure, the easy answer is to tell them to update their system. But the point is, is that required for network viability? Why CAN'T someone play 1.x as the game goes on?
If this gets us multiple light sources (if there are 3 stars then all 3 should be lighting the system) then I am all for it.
Mostly because you always need to make sure win32 can run alongside, so there are certain functions and methods you avoid despite them working just fine with 64 bit, they would not be possible on win32.
With dx10 I'm guessing that backwards compatibility prevents true parallel processing on GPU.
To be honest I'm really concerned about Win10 only for the whole retrogaming/legacy software part of things...
Given that this is a 6 month warning, It means they can keep playing for 6 months more, and have six months to upgrade computer, windows e.t.c, cheap dx11 and dx12 cards are quite easily available, if you do not have a dx11 card it means you are using a GPU that predates 2010, meaning you are already getting a sub par experience, though I agree it truly sucks if it is the only experience you 'can' get, but yeah...refund won't solve anything.
Which would be bad news for macOS uses who have no option but to stick with season 1.
Question to FDEV : Does this also mean that I won't be able to run 2 clients on the same computer? I have been using both the 64-bit horizons client for my main CMDR and the 32-bit client for a 2nd account. I use my Alternative CMDR to store engineer commodities and other important cargo. I launch CMDR #1 in Horizons 64-bit client with the launcher. As soon as it starts, I alt tab to windows, logout from the launcher, log in with CMDR #2 and launch the 32-bit client. This works but when I've tried to launch 2 64-bit clients, it always switches to the one I launched first. I know I might be a marginal user but I would love the possibility to run 2 clients simultaneously on the same computer in the future too.
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At some point people have to realise that 32bit systems are just unsupportable in the long term, 64bit has been with us for a long time and the advances available by switching over to it and dropping support for 32bit the only way forward.
Well, i think there's enough time for players to upgrade for the release of season 3 in june 2017 ;P
On a more serious note, well, dropping win32, yes, definitively, can only do good, even just for the dev and QA time spared by that.
About DX10, do you think to go DX11 minimum or DX12 minimum? (the latter i think would be too much of a leap i think)
On a more serious note, well, dropping win32, yes, definitively, can only do good, even just for the dev and QA time spared by that.
About DX10, do you think to go DX11 minimum or DX12 minimum? (the latter i think would be too much of a leap i think)
It´s clear that people will need to upgrade their hardware at some point. Wasting dev time on something as obsolete as 32 bit software, especially on a tight budget/schedule is unnecessary, especially with an disappearingly small number of people using it. I´m sure people will understand it´s in the best interests of the game.
