Any danger of this change also meaning Skimmer bounties are being paid out again??
That really does sound like FD can't get it to work...
That really does sound like FD can't get it to work...
ANNOUNCEMENT Game Balancing Pt.3
How about counting tons traded, markets visited, scans and mapping made for trade and exploration elite ? That way you could set some final values to that, unaffected by payout balance changes. Smuggling could count higher than legal trading.
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I agree with all of these points. On the Combat rank issue, people refer to it as a grind because they make it their mission to get it as soon as possible rather than passively through general play (which may be how it was designed, hence the high requirement). So the question is which method we should balance it around.Fair enough, heres my personal feelings on these as feedback:
Trade - With mining, this is far too easy. I guess with the recent mining changes its a bit more difficult. But still feels cheating slightly to be able to 'mine' your way to trade elite in a few play sessions.
Exploration - slightly on the easy side. Could do with being made a touch more difficult. And def something to consider if exploration payout gets buffed as it will become easier again.
Combat - Difficult. The grind is indeed very long. Even before todays scout nerf i was thinking it should be shortened somehow. Happy for it to be more difficult than Trade and Exploration, but at the moment it just seems miles harder.
CQC - Almost impossible. The grind to achieve this is the mother of all video game grinds. I think it puts a lot of people off as unless your willing to invest a year of your life or more just playing CQC, you will not progress far along the ranks. It does need a reduction. (also consider buffing credit payouts and also adding arx for CQC as additional incentives)
CQC Elite is unrealistic as it stands and the whole content probably needs a total revamp before the ranks are considered.
No.
You should consider yourself an Elite member of the PIlots Federation Inner Circle - which opens its gates at the Dangerous Rank
Anything above Dangerous Rank is not a matter of skill, but a matter of perseverence
You are of course still trading when you sell... so I don't really see a problem with that, it just needs to be a bit harder, because it's currently way too easy.
It's surprising how many people haven't noticed fdev saying a few times recently they're not fans of grinding. I'm hoping for more nerfs - like stopping relogs for mat grinding.
More playing, less grinding!
More playing, less grinding!
Yes, Trade & Exploration Elite ranks being outrageously ridiculous nowadays is the problem.
Having to spend some teeny-weeny semblance of effort to attain Combat Elite rank is no problem whatsoever.
Will we see any PVP balance changes in 2021?
Whew!
Glad I got my 1600 scouts to get from Deadly to Elite out of the way first.
To be honest though, it's a good thing. Although taking out scouts is fun but, like anything in Elite, you do too much of it and the grind will get to you.
Glad I got my 1600 scouts to get from Deadly to Elite out of the way first.
To be honest though, it's a good thing. Although taking out scouts is fun but, like anything in Elite, you do too much of it and the grind will get to you.
Bruce G
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You are, but because rank gain for Trade is based on credits earned, cashing in mining runs is going to be disproportionate to "standard" trading. I'd consider something like having credits from mined commodities contributing less to rank gain than credits earned by hauling.
Bruce G
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Hopefully! I found this post very interesting: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...nishment-a-proposed-holistic-approach.559839/
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Time to nerf the other ranks hard then. No point being elite trade after one mining run in solo - utterly meaningless. Trade rank should also reflect the danger encountered while trading. Ideally the strength of NPCs fought, and the same but weighted heavily for being attacked by players. (Ideally as in I never really expect this to happen).
this is great, thank You, skill required on these as well as time to build an efficient AX ship were not proportional to the payouts. thanks for taking that into account
I like the combat payouts buffs as well
just smoked an NPC pirate mamba whi tried to steel my precious cargo (deadly I think) HUD popped up with 190k cr, checked transactions its actually says over 800k bounty for that single pirate. finally I can dust off all those beauties that I built for BH but hardly ever got them out gd job devs
If only that concept would have been known to whoever came up with those "balancing" attempts.
May I propose a part 4? Start everyone with all Elite ranks maxed out? Because why not, none of those mean anything anyway,
Again on CZs, is the top end including big ships and the spec ops / captains, or are the specops / captains the top bonus possible and 'regular' ships below it?
Exploration increase should be subtle, not very dramatic. There should be a separate Mining Rank in my opinion
Here's an idea for Odyssey launch: everyone's all Elite ranks are reset.
New levels for attaining Elite are set:
Exploration 10 billion Cr earnings, also exploration missions contribute to this
Trading 100 billion Cr earnings, also missions & mining contribute to this
Combat as is
New levels for attaining Elite are set:
Exploration 10 billion Cr earnings, also exploration missions contribute to this
Trading 100 billion Cr earnings, also missions & mining contribute to this
Combat as is
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Later today, when the galnet article related to it hits !
Bruce G
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Thanks for your sensible comment.
