Its been nerfed too much and more importantly the market instability is ABSURD, especially for those with lives outside of the game. You literally see a decent price finally head there and its gone. Or even refresh 5 minutes later and its gone.
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Its been nerfed too much and more importantly the market instability is ABSURD, especially for those with lives outside of the game. You literally see a decent price finally head there and its gone. Or even refresh 5 minutes later and its gone.
Because you know, "how many I can earn" is 1 thing.
But other thing is "what is more profitable"
Combat should be better than mining, and AX should be better than bh.
But yes, you have partially right, now I see, than even in small, weak, cheap eagle you can earn 500k by single kill, I know and understand, that some things should be better than other, but IMO numbers are just too big. 500k? From 1 kill? In ship for 300k? This is crazy, after 3-4 kills I have enough cash to viper with reactive armour
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Your company needs to adopt this tough love stance more often TBH.
Reward inflation - and the accompanying devaluation of the game's big-ticket items - is definitely a ramification of these changes. Hopefully Frontier are aware of this and have a plan for it. However, it's about trade-offs, and for my money having the rewards for in-game actions feel commensurate with the skill and risk involved in them is more important right now.
I don't think it's as simple as nerfing mining. Other things were out of whack.
One thing Elite does very well is keep the small ships useful into the late-game. I've been playing for six years and I still mostly fly small and medium ships.
Potentially adding a zero to the cost of all the ships would be one way to correct for inflation.
I don't think it's as simple as nerfing mining. Other things were out of whack.
One thing Elite does very well is keep the small ships useful into the late-game. I've been playing for six years and I still mostly fly small and medium ships.
Potentially adding a zero to the cost of all the ships would be one way to correct for inflation.
Yes? I want simple answer- how many cash miner can earn in hour by mining all things, you know, painite, platinium, palladium, osmium, maybe gold and silver. We are talking about common and average prices, not "top" prices.
Hi Bruce.
I've been playing 'passively' since launch - no grinding away at ranks and just doing stuff I enjoy. Specifically delivery missions and more recently a bit of bounty hunting for TDW (definitely no xeno though, long live our thargoid friends
).I strongly feel that allowing missions to contribute to rank has unbalanced the progression - Trade and explorer ranks seem especially skewed when deliveries and passenger missions pay out so much more than just normal trading and handing in exploration data. I got to elite trader almost exclusively by doing delivery missions which seems wrong.
Where rank progression is based on credits earned it might be worth taking a look at calculating it in a way that only includes the 'core' activity rather than the big payouts from missions.
Dunno man. I was making decent money yesterday and the day before moving materials for the first time. Now the price/ton is below 1/10th of what it was for the last two days.
The "balance" you guys call out really sucks.
made mining a pain, then made cargo missions worthless... even the data delivery missions has a side effect (LoL - It kind of remember me of the eggexploit FIX that up PWA)
made mining a pain, then made cargo missions worthless... even the data delivery missions has a side effect (LoL - It kind of remember me of the eggexploit FIX that up PWA)
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No you just really don't seem to understand. I actually thought you were being obtuse.
Yes I've always felt it is a bit strange to be able to earn the cost of a cobra for a risk free delivery / mining mission very early on in the game.
Thank you
This was long overdue and I think it's a really good amount this way.
Looking forward to the new payouts in game.
Obviously Open BGS wouldn't change more than marginally the amount of PvP which currently goes on - the gankers would hang around Deciat and Shinrarta as usual shooting the people who aren't (intentionally) playing the BGS there, because where else are they going to find targets - the BGS groups would meanwhile continue steamrollering mostly-unopposed systems, and competing through other methods.
The sheer size of the galaxy is what makes Open feel dead, nothing to do with the BGS.
Of course, the sheer size of the galaxy is required so that every PMF can have a mini-empire of ten systems or so to call its own. If the bubble was reduced to the few thousand systems the player base actually needs, PMFs would be on basically "you can have a system each" and there might be rather more conflict in the first place.
Any attempt to deal with bots by directly contesting them is going to run into the problem that they can work 24/7 and you can't.
A really big group with a relatively small system count might have the people to waste on the extensive patrols needed to tell the difference between a bot and a single-minded player in any specific case. Perhaps. But most groups if they patrol four hours and the bot works the other twenty, the bot still comes out way ahead.
That one I think has to be for Frontier to solve (somehow) by detecting them whether another player is around to see them or not ... and/or by rebalancing the BGS so that unbottable actions - and that the basic getting from A to B is bottable to start with is a problem even if there's no actual bots! - play a much heavier role in it in the first place.
@Bruce Garrido @Arthur Tolmie
Really, really appreciate the team's efforts at this. Badly needed and will leave the game in a stronger place.
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I think payments for AX will be too big. I understand the risk but with good build and a little bit of skill you can easily instakill solo Cyclop or Basilisk in one wing. Alone in can kill this way around 30 Cyclops per hour. From my experience in flying as part of wing with a little less experienced pilots I expect around 15-20 Basilisk in same time that would give each of 4 players in a wing a money for new fleet carrier after around 10-12h of play.
i think the lower end goids are fine in pay but the higher end ones i feel really need to be more bang for your buck. it feels to risky to take them on
bah humbug! It was nice to find the occasional mission with a very nice payout. I suppose the Scrooge season is upon us
It took me 5 years to get combat Elite during general play including Interceptor combat, felt like a proper achievement when it happened.
Yet folk can do it in a month when focussed. I have no idea how you'd balance that
That's great to hear.