Bloody hell Fizzatron, why can't you accept that because EDO released in such an awful state it was poorly reviewed? And even today, it's just not very good in comparison to other games that have been recently released? I'm honestly, trooly rooly happy that you love the game. Lots of other people just don't. There was no secret internet meeting where we all gathered in our capes and masks and decided that EDO must be poorly reviewed on Steam to show FDEV the error of their ways.
Game Bashing On Steam
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Be thankful! He answered mine and $10,000 disappeared from my bank account
Then how do you know about the capes and masks?
I watched Obsidian Ant's video about it. Ahhh dammit, you got me!
Do you guys seriously think its getting review bombed?
I think its more proof that odd genuinely is bad. What happened seems to be:
The only bombing that seems to be happening is people hitting the like button for negative reviews. That seems a little bit excessive?
Also if people were review bombing elite, why isn't the base game negative? Getting copies of the base game is far far cheaper than odd, you'd think they would start there first?
I think its more proof that odd genuinely is bad. What happened seems to be:
- Odd crashed.
- Randoms and casuals were effectively warned away.
- Positivity peddlers started buying the game and leaving their positivity generating reviews (at least they were honest about it) and crept the ranking up.
- During the last sale, addicts looked again and decided it was looking up.
- Odd is still odd, and now its been floored even lower because people genuinely thought they had a chance but were just hooked by positivity peddlers.
- The net outcome for frontier is worse because the results from the recent trap has left the score in an even worse state.
The only bombing that seems to be happening is people hitting the like button for negative reviews. That seems a little bit excessive?
Also if people were review bombing elite, why isn't the base game negative? Getting copies of the base game is far far cheaper than odd, you'd think they would start there first?
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It's easiest to spot review bombing when it is done to an existing game - so something that was initially popular suddenly gets an influx of negative reviews, bringing the rating down. It's harder to spot on a new release, because there's no baseline to compare the scores against. Now if, for example, EDO had started with a positive rating and then after the cancellation of the console release there were suddenly dozens of new, negative reviews, then you'd be looking at that as probable review bombing.
Historically review bombs have happened when the software company does something that upsets a significant portion of their playerbase, not just because the release is poor.
A good recent example is devs who got review bombed for declaring their support for Ukraine.
Which, incidentally, Steam detected and there's notifications on the review pages of relevant games.
So it's not like Steam doesn't have systems in place to detect review bombing - it's just that EDO didn't trigger them. I wonder why?
Well unless there's a public campaign to organize the review bombing, which there often is, there's no actual proof that it's happened - just that it's the most likely explanation for the shift in review pattern
Oh and by 'public' I mean on Reddit, Twitter or other social media.
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There is no circumstantial evidence. There are thousands of reviews. You have provided no proof thus far. You have provided nothing more than conjecture and speculation.
It isn't any more of a concerted effort to label it early access than it is to label it a space sim. No one got together in some secret meeting or conspired to do either. It's a user tag. It's what people feel it needs. Enough people felt it needed to be labeled as such. That isn't a conspiracy.
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Wow, you really are prepared to die on this hill:
Odyssey was and still is crap! They released it in an appalling state and spent nearly a year trying to make it better but it seems like the only optimisation that worked was removing FX from the game.
AA and lighting is still broken.
They cheaped out on the space legs part of spacelegs, no zero G environments, 2 gravities on planet, no space EVA, they couldn't even be bothered to update legacy surface POI's or even add leg type things to do there.
Their planet tiling was poorly done and now won't be fixed even tho' it was the No1 issue on the bug tracker for a year!!!
Fdev went dark just before Xmas after promising better comms and here we are almost 5 months later with an information free weekly stream and the occasional announcement from a CM.
Console was cancelled and absolutely no information about what is planned for the future (apart from a fact free goofy head nod that update 12 was indeed in the works).
Seriously, your tortured belief that the game was review bombed makes me want to go and add all this to my current review (which was not recommended btw), but the Russians didn't put me up to it - I came to that conclusion all on my own.
Shocking I know.
It's the internet, nobody know what they are talking about.
I just read the 20 most recent negative steam reviews of the base game. I can only recommend it. It's quite easy using the filter provided by steam. The amount of nonsense I read was astonishing.
As always, that doesn't mean the game is perfect and doesn't deserve criticism.
Welcome to the steam reviews^^
Should look at the positive to.
Most recent as I look right now :
"game"
"pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew"
followed by 2 roughly normal (it's just a sentence with lots of spelling mistakes, but it's a sentence nevertheless)
then
"GOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"hshs mining mission go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT" (don't know what that mean)
We still have a few others down the road, like
"nice"
and
"My life it ruined"
For every dumb negative review, you can find a dumb positive one. There are a lot of them and this is true for literally any games. Eventually, it even out.
Yeah the irony of people calling out " negative reviews" when just as many shallow 5-word positive reviews exist.
And STILL, none of it at all proves there's any negative review bombing happening. Odyssey is not a good product, users reviewed it as such. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. But it also doesn't mean any negative review MUST be wrong.
Nah, many people gave it a bad review because it's not what they wanted, not because it's bad. Of course that doesn't apply to every negative review, and obviously it doesn't mean that review bombing is taking place either.
But I think in the current state the expansion should be around 60-70% rather than 34%, it's quite awesome actually and in many areas much better than the base game. If we could ignore everyone who is upset because no VR, no ship interiors and the people who just don't want any FPS in their space game the score would probably slightly better. Not awesome, but better. Of course we could also ignore the people who recommended it because they find it good, but that's kind of missing the point.
So the reviews should be better because you personally are having fun? Personally I think the reviews should be a lot WORSE, since EDO is still missing the advertised feature of 'diplomacy contracts', and we can safely ignore any review from people who don't care about that feature.
A valid reason to give a negative review is because it's not what people wanted.
How else do many people tell the developer what they think than by reviewing the game and posting what they think. It might not be impartial of course, and I'd vote Oddity down because of my own personal grips regarding VR (so you'd have me silenced in your stats), but I haven't reviewed it. Instead, I've stopped contributing to FD's coffers, and feel let down as a long-time initial supporter when 5 years ago FD appeared to give a crap.
