Game Bashing On Steam

[Stealthie]

Meh.

"Review bombing" is the latest thing that all the cool kids are doing.

Whether it be Steam, Trustpilot, Rotten Tomatos, IMDB, or whatever, a bunch of outraged pleb's get together on Twitter and resolve to vent their anger by clicking on something over and over again because, apparently, that's how you change the world these days.

 

[William J Smith]

I wish to complain about the recent lack of people complaining about the people complaining about the complaints.

I demand a refund as a result and special treatment for myself and all my friends including custom gameplay written especially for me*

Signed
A very unhappy Bill

*Basically a room in a station where I can sit and make complaints all day long.

 

[Frank]

I have over 5000 hrs in the game, I like it.
Would I recommend the game? Absolutely.
Do I get frustrated at times? Sure do!
Will I keep playing? Yep!
Really don't understand all the negative reviews, unless they are among the group of people who insist on instant gratification. Anytime you have upgrades to any kind of program, you are going to have bugs. That's just the nature of the beast. No programming is perfect. Every game is buggy when there is an update, it just seems like the Elite Dangerous community has more than their fair share of people that insist on perfection every time, that is not possible.

There are some tedious and tiring aspects of the game but overall, it's an enjoyable game with many different challenges within the game. It seems that there are some who believe that they should reach the top tier within a very short time. No.
Some, but not all, of the negative reviews seem to come from people who are used to getting their way and when they don't, they resort to belligerent and nasty posting.

Try the game, if you don't like it, get a refund and quit playing.
There are several games that I've played, didn't like, and quit playing. Didn't bash the programmers or the company that owns the games. I simply quit playing.

If you play the game through steam and like the game, go to steam and post your review.

I also noticed that there are quite a few in these forums that like bashing the game, the programmers and Frontier, seems like they spend more time in the forum bashing than they do playing. I'm not talking about the people that post legitimate questions or gripes. We all have some gripes, that's different from bashing.

Hysteresis

Odyssey was really bad when it was first released so it got all those bad reviews. The subsequent updates have improved it, but not enough for folks to change their reviews

 

[The Lawful]

Hysteresis

Odyssey was really bad when it was first released so it got all those bad reviews. The subsequent updates have improved it, but not enough for folks to change their reviews

The sad thing is that it's much better than Horizons today und runs well even on crap hardware again, but it will never get away from those 30ish percent Steam reviews again I guess.

And that might kill it in the end.

O7,

 

[Sluggy71]

the mostrly negative views ware made by yamiks becuase he wanted to bash the game because fdev didnt gave him a review copy so he organized his discord and youtube channel to negatively review the game. .. most of the bashing is just that bashing its not even any argument lol

Errr, yeah, that's it.

It really had nothing to do with the fact that EDO was released in an absolutely horrendous state. It was all Yamiks.

 

[myothershipisacobraiv]

This community hates on Yamiks. For my own part, at times, the level of negativity he puts forwards has grated on me. Still, honestly, Yamiks is a pretty interesting treepotato. I'm confident he's done more for the game than against it.

 

[Northpin]

I actually changed my initial review from a to a

Odyssey was really bad at launch.
It improved by Update 4, then Update 5 introduced the stutters and deep fps drops nearby settlement and it took them like 3 Updates to fix those.
So it was quite a rollercoaster.

Now is much better.
But i still dont like that some of the performance improvements comes at the cost of non-optional quality reducing fixes.

 

[sinisalo]

I won't comment on the OP too much, other than to say I'm glad that his vision is not reality. If only people who liked any particular game reviewed it what good would that be for prospective buyers?

But I do want to say that sure, Steam reviews have their fair share of drivel and drunks. But Steam reviews, for me, are the best resource for quickly forming an opinion of any game's suitability for me. Yes, you have to wade through those murky waters at times, not every thing posted is a gem of objectivity. But Steam says I've been there seventeen years and in all that time you learn how to cut the wheat from the chaff, how to divine the true state of affairs from the myriad of responses. I think these are often a better gauge than mainstream reviews where it sometimes feels like they are bending over backwards to not be too critical.

Except those 'reviews' that use a 'check box' style. I skip every one of those. Ten minutes of reading a selection of user reviews is enough to form an accurate assessment of how things stand and whether the game seems right for me. In all those years at Steam, I have refunded exactly two games (Panzer Corps and Endless Space 2 for the record), so I think despite the obvious trash, in general it's a great resource. It's like any information, and up to you to make the best use of it.

 

[Greasetrap42]

OP, look at your post in reverse:

• Why would I post a positive review for ED Horizons or EDO in 2022?
• Why would I recommend the game to my friends?

I still enjoy ED Horizons, its got some great features. but its 2022 now and Odyssey is just not worthy of posting an overall positive review. In fact my experience over the last year was very poor.

If a friend is specifically looking for a space sim Horizons is worth mentioning, I still like it. I'm certainly not going to rave about EDO as a personal top 10 game they should absolutely try. I don't make a habit of suggesting mediocre, frustrating, or sub-par items to friends or colleagues. That would be embarrassing.

 

[Greasetrap42]

Try the game, if you don't like it, get a refund and quit playing.

Yeppers, and guess why there is a whole lotta bad reviews.

 

[myothershipisacobraiv]

There would be less bad reviews if people would udpate their reviews. Odyssey is no home run even in its current state, but it does bring some things to the table. It makes it so somebody can come back to the game and have fun with it again. That's a pretty big thing, imo.

 

[Rainbro]

Yeppers, and guess why there is a whole lotta bad reviews.

Because the game suffers from serious performance issues, has questionable balancing and gameplay, with numerous bugs and stability issues, and little to negative progress on visuals to justify the performance hit?

 

[Greasetrap42]

There would be less bad reviews if people would udpate their reviews. Odyssey is no home run even in its current state, but it does bring some things to the table. It makes it so somebody can come back to the game and have fun with it again. That's a pretty big thing, imo.

The burden should not be on consumers to update reviews. The burdon is on companies to avoid developing a bad reputation, and trying to fix that reputation.

 

[The Lawful]

The burden should not be on consumers to update reviews. The burdon is on companies to avoid developing a bad reputation, and trying to fix that reputation.

Adam said.

O7,

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

Its starting to dawn on me that somehow, one of the unexpected highest outcomes has actually occurred for elite dangerous.

There were a few heady conversations in the beyond year where it was joked that because frontier were, upsetting, every feature they were redoing bull china shop style, it may have been a community wish for them to leave our pet features alone. The only things not doomed to some new element of worse were the things frontier has abandoned.

Well, we may have indirectly got our wish from frontier cancelling consoles. They've committed to both keeping horizons around, and critically not making any more change than critical patches.

... So that wish has come true. We have horizons as is, and its completely safe from any further hacking (code term) up of the game.

This is a great and unexpected outcome. I'm loving it. Been playing again now that the threat of odd everywhere is gone.

ps. Before you quote brabes, put your frontier hat on first:

• It costs zero development time to keep horizons around, and its been committed for the foreseeable future. Building in a feature to keep horizons players out of odd is potential non zero, and they made life difficult for themselves when they chose to mindbogglingly put odd content on horizons planets, not just odd planets.
• If there is a material percentage of horizons only pc elite players running under a 2070, they would have to assume that percentage would erode down to nothing soon after any merge.
• Any player that subjective prefers horizons space and planet tech would have to go on console or leave, creating another unnecessary complication to playing the game.

Pending confirmation of course. Its frontier, so this is also just musing into silence and remains true until the day its not.

But the point is, im genuinely happy about having a locked, saved version of elite forever that safe from future changes. Remember when they tinted the entire screen, destroyed everything, and didn't even say anything until months later where they changed it again without saying anything. No more. No more random fss replacing instead of adding. Its good, thanks i like it.

 

[The Lawful]

Its starting to dawn on me that somehow, one of the unexpected highest outcomes has actually occurred for elite dangerous.

(..)

But the point is, im genuinely happy about having a locked, saved version of elite forever that safe from future changes. Remember when they tinted the entire screen, destroyed everything, and didn't even say anything until months later where they changed it without saying anything. No more. No more random fss replacing instead of adding. Its good, thanks i like it.

To be truly safe, buy a console. And beyond EDO, there will be no future development anymore, anyway. That much we made sure at least.

O7,

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

To be truly safe, buy a console. And beyond EDO, there will be no future development anymore, anyway. That much me made sure at least.

O7,

Best of all, if they want to stop spending on optimising odd, they can just point at horizons thats still around and say 'no harm done you can still play what you bought even though you can't run odd'.

If they haven't decided this already

Thanks for the tip tho, i have a ps4 with horizons sitting there sweetly as a backup.

 

[Erei]

Meh.

"Review bombing" is the latest thing that all the cool kids are doing.

Whether it be Steam, Trustpilot, Rotten Tomatos, IMDB, or whatever, a bunch of outraged pleb's get together on Twitter and resolve to vent their anger by clicking on something over and over again because, apparently, that's how you change the world these days.

Indeed, review bombing is the latest explanation for people who disagree with a review rating.

Remember kids, if the game is rated highly and you disagree : "paid shill"
If the game is rated badly and you disagree : "review bombing".

The fact Steam punish harshly the first, and have measures to prevent the second is totally irrelevant.

It's like in a multiplayer game, if you got killed it's luck-cheat. If you kill someone, it's skill.

 

[The Lawful]

Well, when they switch off the servers, it will be Horizons first.

And however justified it may have seemed to vent one's disappointment into Steam Reviews, and lo: back then, it ultimately comes back as killing the game in general. Which is no loss if you are more into other genres or gen Z or something.

And that's where we are.

O7,

 

[The Lawful]

It's like in a multiplayer game, if you got killed it's luck-cheat. If you kill someone, it's skill.

So if you want the game to go away, because it is justified, why do you still post here? Angry ghost?

O7,