I did a temp job at a pop factory that was the same. Four supermarkets same pop different price tops and labels, premium pop just had the sugar cranked up by 10% along with the price. Other than that same production line recipe and ingredients.
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I did a temp job at a pop factory that was the same. Four supermarkets same pop different price tops and labels, premium pop just had the sugar cranked up by 10% along with the price. Other than that same production line recipe and ingredients.
My loyalties were to Wilkinson Swords, while they were still british (and i did not have the beard!).
Gillette is american.
Gillette is american.
Lol.
Wilkinson Sword, made in Germany, owned by an American company. Sorry, I thought they were British..
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This is why I got a safety razor.
Goose4291
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The problem for me is that is not what it is saying.
What it is saying, with all the subtly of a sledgehammer for cracking nuts, is that we need to be told this as toxic 'male-ness' (when this isnt the case IMO) is the approved norm we all follow that needs to be changed. Including the hypocritical MeToo movement and Armenian holocaust denying 'I'm better than you' ranting Sarkesian in their assorted collage of nonsense confirms this for me.
This is why Im glad Im back in a seagoing job. There isnt time for this sort of pathetic self indulgent navel gazing that those living comfortably at home in the comfortable, peaceful west seem to do over every little damn thing that seems to be becoming the norm when youre trying to keep on course at 0300 in the morning in a force eight in the English Channel.
Goose4291
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Or:
Buy Gillette and everyone will think you're not a misogynist.
My brain hurts.
Indeed.
Judge: Mr Goose, you are charged with slapping your wife around, what say you?
Goose: Well, your honour, I buy gillette razor blades...
Judge: Case dismissed.
I have a Braun for everything
To me; it is not about 'the message'. It is about jumping on a band wagon for commercial gain. If that is all advertisers can come up with to sell a particular product; then the product is not worth selling. It smacks of desperation.
Some irony: Apparently the pink ones cost more than the normal razors.
This latest movement, is being taken very seriously. However; it is being tainted by a few; making false accusations.
Jenner
I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Just because a company makes an ad with the goal of making more money for their shareholders does not mean that the message of said ad is necessarily wrong or suspect. A desire to make money is not mutually exclusive with a desire to do some good.
The very fact that there has been such a visceral and negative reaction to this ad suggests that they're onto something and that there really is a problem with toxic masculinity at large. Why should men feel threatened by an ad that suggests men teach good morals to kids?
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I am thinking of a way to word this diplomatically without causing offence... and it is difficult, so please 1st off trust me i in no way mean wish to insult anyone or make light of anything but.
Turn it on its head for a second.
lets imagine that the venus brand of razors did a female equivalence which depicted women deliberately getting pregnant to get money from a partner, or crying assault after the fact on a drunken party because they 2 timed their partner,.... but there is another way, use venus razor blades!.
The point is, the number of women who have done that are in a TINY minority and we all know that is disgraceful - These people DO exist, i know 2 who did exactly the above even so far as one having the police turn up before she burst into tears and admitting it was "all a missunderstanding" (it wasnt me who had it done to but i was witness and i am talking gods honest truth).
BUT making out in an advert that this is a huge issue that a significant number of womankind do, but that, using a razor some how unites people into showing the world there is another way.
It is just wrong on so many levels imo but mostly because people - men or women - are generally not like that so why make a video promoting that they are?
I am not angered by the advert (and certainly wont be throwing my razors in the bin) . I am saddened however that a company felt the need to make such a statement so that they can make money
either way however the reaction to it, from those both championing it and disliking it is quite interesting i think.
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Bob Lighthouse
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That's a terrible non-sequitur.
They aren't "threatened" at large, it's the "pandering" that's offensive.
And yes that is suspect, just because they are trying to make money off of it.
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make no mistake, ads are about money and attracting attention, 'good' is not a concept there. the 'creatives' wouldn't have dared even tackle this same subject 15 years ago although most rational people were already aware of the problem by then. if they exploit it today it's not to make any good, it's because their metric tells them that the awareness is already out and selling, and it is already a juicy topic in society that might work for their goals, which is to sell blades.
indeed. but it is also true they are exploiting that very fact. they are going along with change and reaping what they can from it. same as with climate change or poverty or war or racism, these tactics do not advance progress ever so slightly, they merely exploit them and the way they do and the topics they choose is just an expression of the changes already in society.
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Short version. Total rubbish. Long version. If you genuinely believe that Gillette are motived by; a need or desire, to turn all males into good, decent and caring human beings? Then you are being naive.
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The backlash is not about a few hurt male egos. If a few Neanderthals have an issue with it on the grounds, that they have to be seen to change? Then tough on them, equal rights for women has been an issue for over 100 years and it is about damned time, everyone got the message.
The backlash is about putting us all in the same, minority boat. I and the majority of males in the western world are very respectful of women and it is only the media, that makes us sometimes feel guilty, for just having wedding tackle.
I seriously doubt it has anything to do with a desire to "do good".
As others have observed it seems more to do with someone figuring out that it will cause a controversy - which it has - and that on the basis that there is no such thing as bad publicity they'll raise brand awareness and make some cash.
I'm not convinced there's a load of men out there who don't currently use Gillette thinking "do you know what - they've got a point there - I'm gonna get me some!"
On the other hand quite a few have declared they will be boycotting Gillette - and it's also drawn attention to the fact that the Lady razors are more pricey because Ladies - which could also backfire.
Personally I'm not fussed I use the Gillete jobbies I've been using for a long time because after trial and error with various types including cheapo pound shop jobbies I'm comfortable with them and I go with what I know - so I'm not about to cut my nose off to spite Gillette.
I suspect a lot of the outcry is that people are just weary of being lectured to in TV shows that are meant to be entertainment and adverts that are meant to be ignored or at least funny if they can't be avoided.
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