That's the corporate way of communicating. Instead of saying "No way in Hell", they are told to say "thank you for your feedback, we have our best people thinking about it right now".
Give Yamiks an Alpha key!
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Yes, it does matter. It's the whole point. Who defines "civilized"? You? Me? Fdev? Yamiks?
The amount of hypocrisy in this thread is mindboggling.
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The guy in the t-shirt might buy the initial excuse and go away quietly. If you go all-in from the get go he might punch you in the face before he walks off
Maybe not the most courageous approach, but from a self-preservation viewpoint it makes sense. And corporations are usually on the risk-averse side of things.
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That's pretty much what I was trying to say there.
I really don't give flying f whether he gets one or not. It's up to Fdev who they give keys to, and they have decided not give one to him.
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Yes, because blatantly lying is your definition of letting someone down gently. Point proven.
FDev if you mean the free alpha key, Youtube if you mean the content that Yamiks produces.
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The guy in the t-shirt might buy the initial excuse and go away quietly. If you go all-in from the get go he might punch you in the face before he walks off
Maybe not the most courageous approach, but from a self-preservation viewpoint it makes sense. And corporations are usually on the risk-averse side of things.
And in most circumstances, you're sort of not correct but when a company has a moral code, ethics, there is no point only referring to it when it is convenient, or hiding from it when it isn't. You start to look like it's a badge you wear but turn the lapel when things get hot. It undoes your stance to have not been crystal clear about it.
And who cares.
as soon as you need money or goodwill you’re lost, Yamicks made a YT channel with a special flavor, some like it some don’t, however if he need to beg for handouts put a fork in it, to me this is a commercial show, created to attract new viewers, if he wanted to honestly review the DLC he could just buy one and be done with it, instead we get all the drama, the circus acting and everything that comes with it.
If the dlc is bad, it should be reviewed as such, but not with inflated pleasure dolls showered in toilet water!
but that’s just...
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Quick question..someone posted that FD have responded and apparently it was an out of order response.
How do you skip to FD replies in this new forum as I can't see the symbol which was on the old one. TBH I can't think of a.single thing FD would have said that is out of order.
It's their game, they decide if they want to give beggars something or not.
Imo publicity (if there is any) of NOT giving him a key will be no more positive or negative than if they hadn't. I don't see anyone boycotting the game because Yamiks had to buy a key and it's not like it will bias him against FD
How do you skip to FD replies in this new forum as I can't see the symbol which was on the old one. TBH I can't think of a.single thing FD would have said that is out of order.
It's their game, they decide if they want to give beggars something or not.
Imo publicity (if there is any) of NOT giving him a key will be no more positive or negative than if they hadn't. I don't see anyone boycotting the game because Yamiks had to buy a key and it's not like it will bias him against FD
Think of it what you will, but it's like not being invited to a party and being told that's because "there are not enough seats" or "it's only for close family", while in fact that's not true and they simply don't like you, but don't want to tell you that straight.
Wider society has agreed values (far too slowly) they believe some of his stuff goes against those agreed values. They specifically mention sexuality in that message. It is agreed throughout most non-demented people, that slurs, or phrases that are homophobic are undesirable.
Toilet humour is not the same as using slurs.
yeah - but you have to remember that whatever you think about Yamiks he does have a lot (for an ED player) of viewers. So when you tell him you haven't enough keys for him it doesn't ring true.The guy in the t-shirt might buy the initial excuse and go away quietly. If you go all-in from the get go he might punch you in the face before he walks off
Maybe not the most courageous approach, but from a self-preservation viewpoint it makes sense. And corporations are usually on the risk-averse side of things.
It's like he walks into an empty restaurant in an offensive top and you tell him there are no tables. He looks around and say 'wat' .... and you have some explaining to do. Unless you have a sign on the door that says 'no football colours' - which fdev doesn't seem to do - it's in a cupboard under the stairs and they had to go and find it after the fact
Seriously?!? Do you honestly believe that? Don't you think culture has something to say when it comes to defining the limits of what is considered "civilized", and in that case, do you think companies define culture? They certainly try to, but do they?
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I suppose all I'm saying is you pick your battles, and FD tried this with their initial response. I also feel that the first and second reply weren't from the same individuals and it was moved up the foodchain internally.
Edit: And I also wonder to what extent FDev expected their comms with Y to be shared with the public.
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I kinda agree with that, so again, I question their handling of this. If they blew me off with the key story, that is fine. I have no channel, nothing. I earned the corporate blow off. But the thinking that they could blow this guy off, is astounding. They should have foreseen this coming. It's a conversation they should have had before he sent the request for the key in the first place. They must have known it was coming (troubling if they didn't) so get your position right from the start.
In the context of this thread they do because everything happens related to their platforms. The lowest denominator for Yamiks is the point where Youtube demonetizes his content.
Outside the context, I'm not sure what kind of definition you are searching for "civilized". According to the dictionary it means either "polite and well-mannered" in which case frat humour hardly fits or "at an advanced stage of social and cultural development", in which case frat humour is civilized, but so is hardcore pornography.
Its not like anyone is getting hurt in the process or something. Yamiks doesn't get a free key, neither does the 99.999999% of this planet. He'll live.
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