Go stuff yourselves : I'm enjoying the game.

Love this thread OP.
I returned last month after being gone for almost 2 years, & everything new is wonderfully overwhelming, & it had me playing in ways I never normally would've.
Having a BLAST
 
I've played the old fashioned dungeon crawlers and it's like Wow you worked for 20 hours and leveled up, and all you got was a new model, an extra 1 in your stats but the game loops are still the same.
Yet people are infurariated when this effectively is what happens in ED, and I have to wonder if some of these people ever played games back in the 80's.
I personally suspect that part of the problem is that kids can happily do "repetitive" things for hours on end, and find it fun... BUT as you get older, you TEND to gradually loose the ability to enjoy long stints of repetitiveness. (This doesn't seem to apply to all adults, so I expect some people to contradict me, but I suspect there is still a trend.)

So just because I was able to do hours/days of repetitive trading to eventually get a Panther Clipper in Frontier Elite 2, all those years ago, doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy doing the same thing today with Elite Dangerous.
 
You should try Star Citizen forums - its a 100% positive echo chamber - great for a game development... :D

As were the forums here in the beginning. What changed? Or rather what expectations / attempts to favour a style / general whining / exploit using / exploit exposing / flame thread / rage quit stuff happened?

Its the same with any game. However I still love it, i have a blast doing whatever i want to do, when I want to, in whatever mode i want. Sometimes it just needs a little reflective time and re- assessment of what I'm doing. Past 2 days, chasing CIF. Went to a named sector, no luck, not 1 on offer. Looked at vids, go to installations in SRV (not my favourite mode) and hated it. Went to a home system and suddenly, 7 CIF in 90 minutes, mission running without stress. Sometimes we beat ourselves up by fixating when the solution could be staring us in the face.
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The reason some complain is that we genuinely like the core game play of Elite (i.e. flying your spaceship is done really well), but find that their are certain things that could be done much, much better. Consider that many things the community complained about e.g. excessive RNG grind or thermal shock beams, as two examples, have been reduced in response to complaints from the community and the game is better for it.

Complaint is a form of feedback. Feedback can and has been used to improve the game. People complain because they care. When people stop complaining, they've moved on to doing something else with their time - which may or may not be a good thing for the game as a whole.
 
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Been here is Premium beta and loving it still.

Love how the improvements in the missions system has really made it a "slice of life" for a Cmdr in the 3300s

Been only using my Sidewinder now, for the BGS, passenger missions, CZ, Mining, even CGs, don't need to place, just participate as each mission, each day is another Adventure
 
Still, some bad design decisions were made and you can't just brush it off because you still enjoy the game.

Well, you thinking some design decisions were bad is a very reasonable opinion, and far cry from your original assertion that "some [of] the so-called game loops are becoming an utter mess". There's things we'd all improve, of course, and you nailed it with "No game is ever gonna be perfect".

I just play the game I'm in and measure the fun. ED has been one of my most cost-effective purchases ever in computer gaming terms. In £/hour I haven't made many purchases that approach it, and certainly none I'm still playing. Although GW2's looking like it'll work out for me too ;-)
 
I have never asked too much out of Elite Dangerous. I bought a lifetime pass at the beta and I barely had a gaming PC at launch. I played anyway at 10fps.

I knew it would be a procedural generation collections of looping of short game loops from the get-go with rotating veneers.
Much like most sandbox games, and not unlike....well Elite 1 & 2.

I've played the old fashioned dungeon crawlers and it's like Wow you worked for 20 hours and leveled up, and all you got was a new model, an extra 1 in your stats but the game loops are still the same.
Yet people are infurariated when this effectively is what happens in ED, and I have to wonder if some of these people ever played games back in the 80's.

I've been trying to unlock some of the engineers, and one guy who opted to be my co-pilot was like "meh - engineers are pure grind". So what have you been doing since launch I asked. Bounty hunting in Rez sites....that's it.
For Two years????? yep.

It's no wonder people get upset if they just stick to one type of gameloop.

For some of these engineers unlocks, I've had to do bounty hunting, combat bond collections, mining, exploring and I'm having "fun". That's if you called Flying a heavily modified Adder ("Maxie Power") into conflict zones fun that is ;) Sure resting on a specific material/commodity drop can be infuriating.

Before that I was making a mint with passengers in my dolphin and my orca.

2 months Exploring before and of course trading and mining in the very begining.
And now I've decided to sign up to prismatic shield giving lady. It's my first power-play interaction.


I docked the other day, only to transfer over the weapons & kit I wanted to upgrade from the adjacent system.
During the time, I cashed in bounties, check up on powerplay progress, planned my next set of actions. (lavian brandy unlock, surplus bonds to "the general", meander back to imperial space to work on that powerplay and work parallel with gaining rank to get to a I-Clipper). Then my kit arrived. So it was then to the engineers workshop and throwing a few materials, leveling up neatly to level 5 in minutes (surplus materials :D).
I was having a tonne of fun, and I hadn't even left space-dock yet to fly.


During this time I check out E3, saw all the thargoid stuff, and think, cool, that's yet another avenue to play with later on.
And with the chained missions, an emphasis on story, that "co-op/singleplayer" experience people wanted to have, might be there in the future,
but I know the cannon people, who go to the outer depths of space to investigate these wayward places and are first to report back, *DO* have their singleplayer experience and are true pioneers.

I don't get people who grind like crazy for days on end to get that level20 veneer change, burn out, melt down on the forums, and "quit" the game.

Just play the game when you have time and desire to play, alter your career when you get bored.
The game isn't going anyway.
Don't stress the game. Take those breaks (seriously who plays the same gameloop day-in and day out for years on end) play other stuff if you like
Then come back to just relax in space (and yes I play in Open, just not all the time)


I am loving this game too, as I refuse to grind any element of it.....I'm just happy wandering the stars doing odd-jobs :). That's not to say that I don't want to see the game increasingly improved......but I'm happy for it to happen in its own time.
 
Couldn't agree more with the OP and I'm still excited for future developments, even though I might not enjoy all the new features, I'll just do those I do enjoy and try not to repeat them too often.

I'd also recommend anyone contemplating taking their lance to Frontier's windmills, to try VR in Elite Dangerous. So much more will make sense once you are IN your ship rather than looking at an animated picture of it and the galaxy on a 2D screen.
 
I have never asked too much out of Elite Dangerous. I bought a lifetime pass at the beta and I barely had a gaming PC at launch. I played anyway at 10fps.

I knew it would be a procedural generation collections of looping of short game loops from the get-go with rotating veneers.
Much like most sandbox games, and not unlike....well Elite 1 & 2.

I've played the old fashioned dungeon crawlers and it's like Wow you worked for 20 hours and leveled up, and all you got was a new model, an extra 1 in your stats but the game loops are still the same.
Yet people are infurariated when this effectively is what happens in ED, and I have to wonder if some of these people ever played games back in the 80's.

I've been trying to unlock some of the engineers, and one guy who opted to be my co-pilot was like "meh - engineers are pure grind". So what have you been doing since launch I asked. Bounty hunting in Rez sites....that's it.
For Two years????? yep.

It's no wonder people get upset if they just stick to one type of gameloop.

For some of these engineers unlocks, I've had to do bounty hunting, combat bond collections, mining, exploring and I'm having "fun". That's if you called Flying a heavily modified Adder ("Maxie Power") into conflict zones fun that is ;) Sure resting on a specific material/commodity drop can be infuriating.

Before that I was making a mint with passengers in my dolphin and my orca.

2 months Exploring before and of course trading and mining in the very begining.
And now I've decided to sign up to prismatic shield giving lady. It's my first power-play interaction.


I docked the other day, only to transfer over the weapons & kit I wanted to upgrade from the adjacent system.
During the time, I cashed in bounties, check up on powerplay progress, planned my next set of actions. (lavian brandy unlock, surplus bonds to "the general", meander back to imperial space to work on that powerplay and work parallel with gaining rank to get to a I-Clipper). Then my kit arrived. So it was then to the engineers workshop and throwing a few materials, leveling up neatly to level 5 in minutes (surplus materials :D).
I was having a tonne of fun, and I hadn't even left space-dock yet to fly.


During this time I check out E3, saw all the thargoid stuff, and think, cool, that's yet another avenue to play with later on.
And with the chained missions, an emphasis on story, that "co-op/singleplayer" experience people wanted to have, might be there in the future,
but I know the cannon people, who go to the outer depths of space to investigate these wayward places and are first to report back, *DO* have their singleplayer experience and are true pioneers.

I don't get people who grind like crazy for days on end to get that level20 veneer change, burn out, melt down on the forums, and "quit" the game.

Just play the game when you have time and desire to play, alter your career when you get bored.
The game isn't going anyway.
Don't stress the game. Take those breaks (seriously who plays the same gameloop day-in and day out for years on end) play other stuff if you like
Then come back to just relax in space (and yes I play in Open, just not all the time)

The amount of high fiving and back slapping (including a community manager!) going on in this thread is pretty funny. I think the OP has a moderately interesting thread starter that was ruined right out of the gate by his proclamation that people who don't agree with his points or playstyle should go "stuff themselves." The OP makes the presumption that he knows "how other people play the game and therefore how they burn out and complain" but from what I've read I'd offer that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe he should stuff himself?
 
I tried VR on a friend's computer briefly - amazing, but the headsets and associated computer upgrade is way out of affordability range for me. If they released a PS VR version I would be tempted...however I've heard that the PS VR headset isn't nearly as powerful as Oculus/Vive and would probably struggle with the game.
 
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The amount of high fiving and back slapping (including a community manager!) going on in this thread is pretty funny. I think the OP has a moderately interesting thread starter that was ruined right out of the gate by his proclamation that people who don't agree with his points or playstyle should go "stuff themselves." The OP makes the presumption that he knows "how other people play the game and therefore how they burn out and complain" but from what I've read I'd offer that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe he should stuff himself?

Actually I didn't see it that way at all, if he's like me. It's all the complaining, calling devs stupid, quitting and leaving the game but not the continued complaining on the forums. I got gigged more than once for telling people to leave if they don't like the game, don't come back, cya later bye. LOL Much like go stuff yourself, not because I know how to play the game better. :)
 
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Jenner

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The amount of high fiving and back slapping (including a community manager!) going on in this thread is pretty funny. I think the OP has a moderately interesting thread starter that was ruined right out of the gate by his proclamation that people who don't agree with his points or playstyle should go "stuff themselves." The OP makes the presumption that he knows "how other people play the game and therefore how they burn out and complain" but from what I've read I'd offer that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe he should stuff himself?

I see your point, but it's a fine line that I think the OP has stayed on the right side of. As has been said by others here, it was more a counterpoint to all of the negativity recently.

I'm the first one to smack down meta complaint threads, but this one had a good point once you got past the 'get stuffed' zinger.
 
but this one had a good point once you got past the 'get stuffed' zinger.

So it's OK to evade profanity filter if you are being positive about the game/forums , and flipping(and baiting) everyone else that are complaining?
This is FOR REAL?

I really cant believe that this come up from a moderator himself... Guess this kind of stuff is getting so normal that people can start talk openly about rules only working against part of the community.
 
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Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
So it's OK to evade profanity filter if you are being positive about the game/forums , and flipping(and baiting) everyone else that are complaining?
This is FOR REAL?

I really cant believe that this come up from a moderator himself... Guess this kind of stuff is getting so normal that people can start talk openly about rules only working against part of the community.

That's not what I said so I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't put words in my mouth.

I said it's a judgement call.

If you don't agree and/or your sense of humor is incompatible that's fine. Report it and/or my post. It will be reviewed.
 
Two sayings come to mind. If you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all or remain silent and be thought a fool, or speak and remove all doubt. I'm guilty of both. :( The OP named no names or causes so no fouls were committed.
 
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