Gradually Losing Respect for Frontier Development - Here is Why

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If your friend connects through a router if its possible try directly connecting to the ISP. (PPPoE basically)

If that does not work try your laptop / something else at their house just to eliminate the connection - I had loads of issues at the start until I forced the connection off uPnP and directly connected, then after some tinkering with my system to validate uPnP was working & a router FW upgrade the problem went away.

It's not my friend thats having issues, it's me and about 30 other people on the forums here. Probably much more people that havent posted as well. We've all tried a vast multitude of different configurations, forced port forwards, disabling upnup etc etc, nd yes, sometimes when installing on a laptop the problem disappears and it works fine, even though it's running via the same router.

We've pretty much ruled out network problems on our end, as like i say, we can fix the issue ourselves and play the game by creating a batch file, running the game .exe, and passing our unique player token as a parameter at launch. The game then runs fine. The problem seems to be the way the launcher itself handles the passing on of the token, whatever it does, it does it slightly differently than if you do it manually via a batch file.

I can play the game fine using the batch file, i just need to update the unique token in it every time the game is updated which is a pain, but i can live with it.

Not to go off topic though, my main reason for posting in this thread was not to try and fix the issue as we've a dedicated thread for that, it was just to have gripe about how FD have mostly ignored us since launch, ignored tickets, and that without the players getting together and troubleshooting / fixing it themselves, then we'd all still be stuck with not being able to play the game at all. And i'm certain there are loads of people who dont have the technical knowhow to create batch files etc that are still completely locked out from playing just because of a simple token error on some systems via the launcher.


I just read that, hopefully with the 1.04 update this should fix our problem, fingers crossed!!
 
We've pretty much ruled out network problems on our end, as like i say, we can fix the issue ourselves and play the game by creating a batch file, running the game .exe, and passing our unique player token as a parameter at launch. The game then runs fine. The problem seems to be the way the launcher itself handles the passing on of the token, whatever it does, it does it slightly differently than if you do it manually via a batch file.

I can play the game fine using the batch file, i just need to update the unique token in it every time the game is updated which is a pain, but i can live with it.

Could you link me somewhere to how you're doing this? I'm curious if it's a possible solution for someone.
 
Could you link me somewhere to how you're doing this? I'm curious if it's a possible solution for someone.

Here's the solution: (Remember, this solution is for those people who click "Play" after logging in on the launcher, and the screen goes black as if the game is about to load up, but it does nothing and just stays there with a black screen)

To everyone experiencing this bug!
I found a workaround, a slightly dodgy one, but It works 100% for me.
And by the way, the culprit is the launcher.

I previously saw that the launcher launched EliteDangerous32.exe with some large parameters ( a connexion token, and the language used)

So here's the work-around:
1) Launch the game until black screen of death
2) Alt Tab out and Launch Process Explorer ( http://technet.microsoft.com/fr-fr/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx )
3) Find the EliteDangerous32.exe process, go to its properties (right click=>properties)
4) Copy the whole "Command line" field
5) Open cmd.exe (start=>cmd.exe)
6) Past the line you copied previously, and press enter
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TADAAAA magics, game works.

Hope it's work for you too, and hope devs will see this...



However it's easier to just create a batch file so you dont have to do the above everytime you want to play. So once you've gotten your token from Process Explorer, you basically create a .txt file with this in it:


"C:\Users\DarkCognitive\AppData\Local\Frontier_Developments\Products\FORC-FDEV-D-1003\EliteDangerous32.exe" "ServerToken s29df25cbb16cbf29e21508086019c832df2ecd89f25cbb16cbf29e21508086019c832df2ecd89e947a3317acde13b02e66f3a37be1c30c1d71489687db98f4e7582afd3ae19799ec6dc2a65e2c8ef25cbb16cbf29e21508086019c832df2ecd89e947a3317acde13b02e66f3a37be1c30c1d71489687db98f4e7582afd3ae19799ecf25cbb16cbf29e21508086019c832df2ecd89e947a3317acde13b02e66f3a37be1c30c1d71489687db98f4e7582afd3ae19799ec6dc2a65e2c8ef25cbb16cbf29e21508086019c832df2ecd89e947a3317acde13b02e66f3a37be1c30c1d71489687db98f4e7582a02e66f3a37be1c30c1d71489687db98f4e7582afd3ae19799ec6"

Now just rename the file to whatever.bat and run it, it should work fine. Obviously you need to change the dir above to your own dir, and to your own token you get from process explorer.

Ps. Before anyone mentions i shouldnt be displaying my token , its ok, its a made up one.

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That is very interesting. When I was investigating this problem I found that there were TLS 1.2 errors, which indicate corrupt data or the wrong ssh key.
 
If you can't see the difference between exploiting a bug in-game and accepting a compensation offer given to you by the developers of that game, then I give up.

Have fun with this increasingly pointless discussion.

how is the 5b compensation? Compensation is the 20% given to people that lost credit due to the issue. 5b was Frontier trying to fix the issue and making it worse. Then making it even worst by allowing the cmdrs to keep the credits.

As i said more than once what worries me is the next time something like this happens.
 
Great news from Frontier to remove the billions. Got no problem with them giving the cmdrs a reasonable gift to say sorry.

But all in all I think the correct decision was made, Well done Frontier. But shame it took 2 days of the community hi-lighting issues off allowing this much free credit to be given to such a few cmdrs.
 
Inexperience alone in this case is not such a good excuse. It's not like ED is the first always-online game ever. There are numerous examples of such games which had many problems during the last 10 years. Mistakes and problems they could have learned from. Hell, they could have hired people with experience. ED, and its a shame really, I love the game, is starting to look alot like MWO. Same thing is starting to happen here. FD keeps making this stupid mistakes and the community loses, rightfully, its hope in FD. What happened with Piranha? No one trusts them anymore.

Did you even play MWO? This is pretty much the polar opposite experience of that hot mess of garbage. Or did you pay 500 bucks for your gold Viper?
 
The login client is not so buggy - that sounds like an issue for your friend, perhaps he's not logging on to an Admin account on the PC? That ticket, if you've raised one, will be a very low priority for the devs.



That is not to say that the devs haven't been working on the high priority tickets and clearing issues. Do you want an update every time a ticket is cleared?

I once worked for a company that had a client ring up literally every five minutes asking for detailed updates on the progress of a bug fix. Eventually, I had to say to them "the more time we spend talking to you, micromanaging your expectations, the less time we spend fixing the problem".

Good points Skip Intro; +1
 
Been playing since Alpha. I've had tons of cash and I've had practically nothing several times over. It's true that having millions in the bank (or even billions) completely changes the experience, but not necessarily for the better. As others have said if you remove that aspect of the game then you're fundamentally changing the experience. Is it more fun one way or the other? Is it fair to have such disparity on account of a database error? Reasonable people can and will disagree.

That said, I do think that grinding for cash shouldn't by necessity be the end-all-be-all of the experience. There should be lots more to keep people engaged than just the quest for more money. To that end I'd rather FD spend their time addressing leveling concerns, making all professions equally viable, and generally improving the experience for all players than worrying too much about this particular issue. No matter what they do they're going to anger people, after all.

Well said. My first impulse would be to keep that cash, but what then? I'd fully equip an Anaconda and blast everything I wanted. But how long would that be fun? The game is obviously more than the grind, but on the other hand getting to the point where you can own the best hardware available is both a goal and an incentive which moves the game forward.

What people are worrying about, though. Is coming up against some random guy in a top-geared Anaconda who decides to start shooting at them because he can, long before he would normally be able to afford that kind of power. It's not 5 million or 50 million or even 500 million. It's 5 billion credits, which would not only allow someone to make a monster of a ship, but also afford to rebuy it several times. Sure, it's just 50 in 100.000 and it's a big galaxy, but still...
 
For my part, I do not accept that a player perceives 10 credits due to a bug of software. then 5 billion ... Frontier has changed its opinion and it is very good. But the first reaction of Frontier to allow players to keep those billions was hallucinating. A certain laxity. In other domains, also ...
 
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