Griefers at the Engineers

I was attacked by two Corvettes firing at me and raming my ship, to make things worse I couldn't land as a player was blocking the pad.

To clarify the only large ships we had were a corvette and a beluga. Additionally afaik none of us were blocking the pad, however there was a bugged NPC that wouldn't leave the pad, might've been the issue.

I headed up to the surface and was attacked again on the pad, they were raming me and firing missiles

Yeah we got itchy trigger fingers. At least half of us were pretty drunk so... :D
 
To clarify the only large ships we had were a corvette and a beluga. Additionally afaik none of us were blocking the pad, however there was a bugged NPC that wouldn't leave the pad, might've been the issue.



Yeah we got itchy trigger fingers. At least half of us were pretty drunk so... :D
Why am I not surprised? :ROFLMAO:
 
Some Engineer Bases not returning fire on attackers ganking Ships right inside the NFZ of the Base is a very old Exploit.

It was bug-reported a >very< long time ago - and ignored as usual.

Also would like to clarify on this ^

The base was absolutely shooting at us, but because our ships are built properly it's not that big a deal, just boost away and stay out of range of the spicy shield popping lasers, and use massive amounts of hull to tank the rest of the guns. Easy! No exploits needed.
 
Honestly the pad crowding alone is reason enough to switch to solo for Engineering. The griefing is because people are bored and it's naturally going to happen wherever CMDRs congregate so Engineers are an obvious spot for that.
 

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Also would like to clarify on this ^

The base was absolutely shooting at us, but because our ships are built properly it's not that big a deal, just boost away and stay out of range of the spicy shield popping lasers, and use massive amounts of hull to tank the rest of the guns. Easy! No exploits needed.

Ah, okay.
My personal experiences came from mentioned Exploit - attackers were ignored entirely by the Base. The OP read like that was the case, hence my response.
 
Open griefing is akin to kids throwing rocks at cars. They see who can collect the most "tears" or salt or whatever term they are using now to describe the response they get. Then they compare notes and give each other unspoken cred for it. Those who go the extra mile even get some elevated notice by the developer. It seems like a sanctioned act these days.

The real PvP combat pilots in this game are those who look for other well known guns and battle them. Griefing at pads isn't combat. It's just a way for certain segments of the population to feel they have affected someone else's day, and maybe flip the bird at the game developers for some esoteric reason.
 
Open griefing is akin to kids throwing rocks at cars. They see who can collect the most "tears" or salt or whatever term they are using now to describe the response they get. Then they compare notes and give each other unspoken cred for it. Those who go the extra mile even get some elevated notice by the developer. It seems like a sanctioned act these days.

The real PvP combat pilots in this game are those who look for other well known guns and battle them. Griefing at pads isn't combat. It's just a way for certain segments of the population to feel they have affected someone else's day, and maybe flip the bird at the game developers for some esoteric reason.
I'm pretty much the exception to every stereotype on earth, including this one. When I "grief", it's to have an unscripted engagement with another player, one who won't toast me in two seconds, because I'm just an average PvP player myself. I rarely destroy another player whom I have a clear advantage over, I'll just bring down their shields and perhaps reset their FSD to give them some thrilling gameplay, but then I'll let them go. I also tend to do most of my "griefing" in a small cheap ship. My Sidewinder is one of my favorite ships for this, as is my Viper III because it can survive the authority response and even station fire. And because the Sidewinder is cheap, I more often than not am using it to "grief" far superior ships, like two wanted FDLs just the other day. Amazingly I survived that encounter!

Being on PS4, I play this game to fly spaceships, not to chat. When I want to chat and "collect salt", I come here to the forums 😏
 
Hi Cmdr's - Last night I decided to engineer a module at the Engineer in Deciat in my Anaconda, I had just jumped into the system did some fuel scooping always keeping my eyes peeled on the scanner, everything was looking good continued heading towards Farseer Inc the Engineers base, heading there is cruise then jumped into glide mode, at about 7.30km I issued a docking request, the docking computer kicked in, all of a sudden as I was about to land I was attacked by two Corvettes firing at me and raming my ship, to make things worse I couldn't land as a player was blocking the pad. There wasn't a lot I could do but log off with the 15-second allowed time. I logged back into a private group, headed back to the engineers base done the engineering on the module. I then decided to log back into open, I headed up to the surface and was attacked again on the pad, they were raming me and firing missiles. I can't understand how this can be called combat or fair play, I was a sitting duck, seems to be the engineers are becoming a hotbed for attackers. I have made a rule now I only got to the Engineers in Solo or Private Group, any comments on this? fly safe Cmdr's.

Cmdr Gunston...
Good rule.
 
I'm pretty much the exception to every stereotype on earth, including this one. When I "grief", it's to have an unscripted engagement with another player, one who won't toast me in two seconds, because I'm just an average PvP player myself. I rarely destroy another player whom I have a clear advantage over, I'll just bring down their shields and perhaps reset their FSD to give them some thrilling gameplay, but then I'll let them go. I also tend to do most of my "griefing" in a small cheap ship. My Sidewinder is one of my favorite ships for this, as is my Viper III because it can survive the authority response and even station fire. And because the Sidewinder is cheap, I more often than not am using it to "grief" far superior ships, like two wanted FDLs just the other day. Amazingly I survived that encounter!

Being on PS4, I play this game to fly spaceships, not to chat. When I want to chat and "collect salt", I come here to the forums 😏
Then that's not griefing.

Your mileage may vary on this description of "griefer" but it suits my comments just fine:

A griefer or bad faith player is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game (trolling), using aspects of the game in unintended ways.[1] A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals.[2] This creates a strong division between griefing and cheating, since cheating is done with intent of winning the game and thus is discouraged by in-game penalties.
 
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Like it or not, this is the structure of ED now:
  • If you like the thrill of random attacks with a probability ranging from almost zero in fringe systems to a virtual guarantee at Engineer bases, that's Open play.
  • If you want to engage with like-minded players without ruining other people's game or having them ruin yours, organised or ad-hoc Private Groups are the way to go.
  • For everything else, and ultimate peace and quiet, there's Solo.

I think this is a bit limiting. Here's my take:

Elite's got all kinds of crazy stuff going on all over the place. Get out there on the forums, Discords, and find your tribe. You've got AX, PvP, BGS, PowerPlay, Roleplaying, and a whole host of factions doing all sorts of activities. Some of it is mind boggling awesome.

Whatever mode you choose there's a game for you. A big game.
 
Hi Cmdr's - Last night I decided to engineer a module at the Engineer in Deciat in my Anaconda, I had just jumped into the system did some fuel scooping always keeping my eyes peeled on the scanner, everything was looking good continued heading towards Farseer Inc the Engineers base, heading there is cruise then jumped into glide mode, at about 7.30km I issued a docking request, the docking computer kicked in, all of a sudden as I was about to land I was attacked by two Corvettes firing at me and raming my ship, to make things worse I couldn't land as a player was blocking the pad. There wasn't a lot I could do but log off with the 15-second allowed time. I logged back into a private group, headed back to the engineers base done the engineering on the module. I then decided to log back into open, I headed up to the surface and was attacked again on the pad, they were raming me and firing missiles. I can't understand how this can be called combat or fair play, I was a sitting duck, seems to be the engineers are becoming a hotbed for attackers. I have made a rule now I only got to the Engineers in Solo or Private Group, any comments on this? fly safe Cmdr's.

Cmdr Gunston...

What you encountered was pure and unadulterated griefing/ganking.
Never go in Open to places that matter, like Shinrarta, or the engineers.

I do not quite understand why you complain about it being not fair play.
Griefing and ganking is not meant to be fair.
It is meant to turn other players into victims and have fun at their expense.
It is childish/immature bullying behaviour.
 
Always go to the places that matter in Open and rejoice when you achieve your objectives despite any challenges thrown your way.

Respect no one, fear no one, smile and in the worst case say "I will win next time".

Of course other modes are equally valid!

I refuse to deal with griefers and gankers and I refuse to allow them into my ED universe.
I do not mind piracy role players etc.
 
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