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If you are a part of the canon server, or a member, most of the data on the sounds of the obelisks, which they’ve done for at least two years, can be found in the pins. Along with some Spectragraphs that have been made.Hey folks.
I've just read through all this thread to see if there's an answer to this already. If I missed it I'll... be sad. Was interesting re-reading years worth of posts though.
I know there was a bunch of (awesome) testing and investigation done on the audio from Obelisks, Braintrees, and other things over the years.
Is there anywhere a recording of the 'code' that the Relics themselves make? Or an analysis done on it or something?
Also the 'glowing pulse' when they're in space? The glowing was mentioned here in 2018, but I can't see any reference to that being picked up on this thread. Anyone with any links to a study would be appreciated.
I just need to compare it to what I'm seeing and recording now just to confirm there's been no changes.
I'm sure it's just 'cool alien sounds' audio and flashing and there hasn't been any changes, just want to checkbut I can't find anyone posting anything about the Relic audio. Links to anything would be great!
Thanks!
The GSC is currently testing the sounds made by the relic towers. We’ve also done some extensive testing on the sounds of the beacons, and the pylons make.
The go to person for Braintree information in both servers is Cmndr Alton.
If I am not mistaken, similar tests to Cannon were done by IGAU Who is still involved in a mapping project with some of our members and some members of Canon at hen 2-333.
The glowing pulse as you call it, according to the logs, is the result of nano technology. The logs blame this for the blue, pulsing from the crystals, the destructible panels, the artifacts, and the transmission towers at the structures. And the nano tech seems to carry signals throughout the structures as the entire power system is linked by a computer program. We are still trying to work out how functions because the logs are somewhat vague.
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Thanks, but I'm specifically looking for old recordings (as old as possible) of the sound the Relics make, not the sound Obelisks make.
Here’s what I’ve got on that.
So a lot of the community is already aware that about two years ago cannons server on discord got hacked and they were forced to change servers. As a result, a lot of the information they had was completely deleted. At the time I was told most of it could not be recovered.
Just over a week ago, I was talking to someone in the canon discord and they had told me they had gotten most of their old information back. I don’t know where it’s being stored or if it’s been made into the pins yet but it’s there.
If you message the audio lab, you should be able to find someone that can lead you to anything recorded involving obelisks and relic towers.
We have started our own audio lab and I’m trying to get a team that will focus specifically on the relic towers themselves. I have long recordings of the sounds they make, and I would like them analyzed.
We have been working on their function and their alignments for several months now, and I am getting different samples of the sounds they make between being activated, having the barriers removed from the top, and the sounds the crystals make, when they are released from their moorings.
But I don’t think we’ve reached any conclusions yet, this is still kind of a new set of experiments.
If you message me on discord, I will keep you in the loop.
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Not quite.
A complex puzzle was laid into the game, but for whatever reason the player base simply saw it as an arms race and once they downloaded blueprints, they pretty much wandered off to do other things. The original guardian puzzle was never solved.
Reger and hen 2-333 are still locked.
At least two sets of blueprints that were mentioned in the logs have not been found yet. At least two beacons from the beacon network appear to be missing. One of them would be connected to a new battlefield complex located above Bernards loop on the tail end of the wregoe systems.
This complex cannot be found on console or anywhere on Legacy on PC. So this is a new complex to apparently move some segment of the story along. This was added during update 17.
Data mines have produced vague references to large guardian structures. No large guardian structure has ever been discovered. They are all defined as tiny, small, and medium. There are also references to a possible mega ship, but the lines are a bit vague, so we are not certain, this is guardian. But a lot of us do suspect it so. A derelict guardian vessel. Possibly an arc.
And there were numerous references to large audio layers for guardian sites as well.
Canons Guardian laboratory is still in full swing with people joining, and there are at least three projects in special projects at Cannon that involve the guardian conundrum.
I stepped out of Canon to start my own group to focus specifically on this puzzle from a game mechanics point of view, using the logs as a reference point.
This group is called the guardian science corps and we can be found on discord.
This past year, I started a series of video logs to document the processes and the research going forward.
These are called the Guardian Chronicles.
Thanks, I don't really want to do anything on Discord though.
I was hoping someone might just have an old recording, no worries I'm sure it's not important.
To clarify, since you mentioned Relic Towers twice now. I'm talking about the Relics themselves, not the towers.
Take a Relic, drop it in space. Use the freecam to go right up to the hexagonal crystal in it and record that. Make sure you're looking either up or down relatively to the Galactic plane in order to minimise the background noise (specially don't look corewards!).
I just wanted to know if it sounds the same now as it did a few years back, pre Salvation. Also I've been recording it in different locations to see if there's any difference in the sound it makes in relation to it's location in the Galaxy... but then I realised I don't have any baseline recording to compare it to. Hence my post here
Just to illustrate:
The left side is the Relic, method as described above. The middle section is where it exploded (expired due to being in space too long). The right side is the 'normal' sound of space. I'm using this bit so you can see there's a difference between the normal sound of space and the Relic itself.
My assumption is that the Relic sounds the same as it always has, I just hoped someone would have a recording of it from ages ago so I could check. I guess not, no worries
I should have some videos I can send you. I just don’t have any finished analysis of them yet. The relic sounds were recorded with the relic on the ground. The key was recorded floating in space.Thanks, I don't really want to do anything on Discord though.
I was hoping someone might just have an old recording, no worries I'm sure it's not important.
To clarify, since you mentioned Relic Towers twice now. I'm talking about the Relics themselves, not the towers.
Take a Relic, drop it in space. Use the freecam to go right up to the hexagonal crystal in it and record that. Make sure you're looking either up or down relatively to the Galactic plane in order to minimise the background noise (specially don't look corewards!).
I just wanted to know if it sounds the same now as it did a few years back, pre Salvation. Also I've been recording it in different locations to see if there's any difference in the sound it makes in relation to it's location in the Galaxy... but then I realised I don't have any baseline recording to compare it to. Hence my post here
Just to illustrate:
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The left side is the Relic, method as described above. The middle section is where it exploded (expired due to being in space too long). The right side is the 'normal' sound of space. I'm using this bit so you can see there's a difference between the normal sound of space and the Relic itself.
My assumption is that the Relic sounds the same as it always has, I just hoped someone would have a recording of it from ages ago so I could check. I guess not, no worries
I have extensively documented all of the markings on both crystals, and I’ve made particular observations about the energy they disperse. The relic disperses energy through two singular points that can be seen while the relic is spinning. If there is a surface behind it to reflect the two dots of light that float across while it spins.
The key is different, the markings are the same, but a pigmentation of some kind makes the crystal, dark, reflecting most of the energy inward. This has the effect of causing the energy to disperse in large gyroscope type waves, casting it out in wide arcs.
Chronicle on the crystals
Research in Google Photos
Videos of the key
4 new items by Clara Rules Space
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On a last note, I have a GSC post in here somewhere(Guardian Science corps) that you can message with any questions, or feel free to message me directly.Thanks, I don't really want to do anything on Discord though.
I was hoping someone might just have an old recording, no worries I'm sure it's not important.
To clarify, since you mentioned Relic Towers twice now. I'm talking about the Relics themselves, not the towers.
Take a Relic, drop it in space. Use the freecam to go right up to the hexagonal crystal in it and record that. Make sure you're looking either up or down relatively to the Galactic plane in order to minimise the background noise (specially don't look corewards!).
I just wanted to know if it sounds the same now as it did a few years back, pre Salvation. Also I've been recording it in different locations to see if there's any difference in the sound it makes in relation to it's location in the Galaxy... but then I realised I don't have any baseline recording to compare it to. Hence my post here
Just to illustrate:
View attachment 379784
The left side is the Relic, method as described above. The middle section is where it exploded (expired due to being in space too long). The right side is the 'normal' sound of space. I'm using this bit so you can see there's a difference between the normal sound of space and the Relic itself.
My assumption is that the Relic sounds the same as it always has, I just hoped someone would have a recording of it from ages ago so I could check. I guess not, no worries
Our big thing at the GSC is openly sharing information. We want to get to the bottom of this. We feel like progress has been hindered by information hoarding by individuals, and misinformation from the scientific collective.
Highly intelligent and educated people have worked on this, and either failed or given up.
As a result of these factors, we feel like anything is on the table and the open sharing of information is the only way to the bottom of it. And we are always receptive to new ideas or input.
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ThanksI should have some videos I can send you. I just don’t have any finished analysis of them yet. The relic sounds were recorded with the relic on the ground. The key was recorded floating in space.
I have extensively documented all of the markings on both crystals, and I’ve made particular observations about the energy they disperse. The relic disperses energy through two singular points that can be seen while the relic is spinning. If there is a surface behind it to reflect the two dots of light that float across while it spins.
The key is different, the markings are the same, but a pigmentation of some kind makes the crystal, dark, reflecting most of the energy inward. This has the effect of causing the energy to disperse in large gyroscope type waves, casting it out in wide arcs.
Chronicle on the crystals
Source: https://youtu.be/d3zSShweT3g?si=PTxz_N_HIVc9Yx5e
Research in Google Photos
Videos of the key
4 new items by Clara Rules Space
Unfortunately I think all these are too recent. I'm looking for a clean recording from as early as possible. I wish I'd taken some back when the Guardians were first discovered but we were mostly focussed on solving the Obelisk symbols at the time, I wasn't thinking about audio at all.Anyway, if you should need a clean recording of the Relic in space, here's mine. It was recorded 21-12-23 in the Stuemeae JM-W C1-5825 system, for reference. It explodes at 1:30 but the recording continues so you can tell what's background space sounds and what's Relic.
For the earlier stuff, I’m positive that Canon has a thread in here somewhere. You could probably just drop a message on one of their feeds, because all of the members should have access to that information in the discord and should be able to share it with you.Thanks
Anyway, if you should need a clean recording of the Relic in space, here's mine. It was recorded 21-12-23 in the Stuemeae JM-W C1-5825 system, for reference. It explodes at 1:30 but the recording continues so you can tell what's background space sounds and what's Relic.
I would drop a message to see if they can pull some of the old data they were able to save from the earlier crash. They have recovered a lot of it.
Yes. That’s the same sound it was making on the ground. The photo album I sent you contains a lot of stuff I captured on Xbox. So some of that material is up to four years old.Thanks
Anyway, if you should need a clean recording of the Relic in space, here's mine. It was recorded 21-12-23 in the Stuemeae JM-W C1-5825 system, for reference. It explodes at 1:30 but the recording continues so you can tell what's background space sounds and what's Relic.
The newer things I am recording are mostly still on OneDrive
- Playing Odyssey. Planet with atmosphere, stratum and brain trees.
- I'm looking for guardian sites in the surrounding area, but I can't find anything.
- The systems are already visited but not fully scanned.
- I get to the system, honk, use the FSS and check "locations", but I don't find anything.
- I'm also targeting planets without selecting them, but locations don't appear either.
- Do I have to use the surface analysis scanner, one by one, to find guardian sites?
- Do guardian sites appear towards the interior of areas where brain trees are detected, towards the exterior, or at the borders?
- Thanks for your advice and greetings. Sorry if this is not the right place to ask this questions.
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Unless things have changed since last time I went Guardian ruin hunting (which they might have) you need to be within 1000ls of a Guardian Ruin or Site to show up if it's not already been found by someone else.
If you're within 1000ls of a body with Guardian stuff present it will show up on FSS, it shows up in the "Locations" section, not the "Features" section.
You don't need to scan the planet surface, Ram Tah's expanded scanner detection software patch years back made planet scanning itself redundant.
I do not know enough about Brain Trees to answer your other questions there, sorry.
Hope this helps
This is no longer the case. It was at first, but since the introduction of the FSS, you use the DSS to probe planets to locate poi like guardian ruins (and, anything for that matter)
That's great to know, thanks
Thanks for the answers. So:
- The FSS does not identify guardian sites.
- You have to use the DSS on the candidate planets to find ruins.
- Classic methods do not work, for example, pointing to the planet without selecting it, using the FSS less than 1000 ly.
The FSS does identify sites, they show up under Locations (at any range). The exact POIs will show up automatically when you get closer. You don't need to use a DSS at all.
If you FSS all the landable bodies in the system and none show guardian locations, there is nothing there (assuming there's no guardian beacon signal on the FSS either).
If you FSS all the landable bodies in the system and none show guardian locations, there is nothing there (assuming there's no guardian beacon signal on the FSS either).
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Regarding the Beacons; Is there a reason the location in the Codex isn't in the Canonn list?
Which list are you looking at? On the spreadsheet HIP 36823 and Synuefe KU-F B44-4 are both listed?
Link I can't see a HIP system in this list on my phone, but there is on PC? It seems to cut off at 25.