Guilds in Elite Dangerous

[Jorlin]

That unfortunately would not sit well with some of the more "President for Life" guildie types, and exclude genuine despots, dictators and kings. Some players need their ego stroked that way.

to be honest, at the times i played guild oriented games i was always happy with someone else taking the lead... stayed clear of dictators though.
i preferred others to do the work...and myself pulling the strings in the background.
but i'm getting old and those intrigues are too much of a hassle nowadays...

 

[shadragon]

One drawback I can think of guilds would be that it would not be long before a griefing group would be set up in the multiplayer game.

If a group like that does form, they could be identified by their guild ID.

I've played many games where guilds or factions are a component part (There always seems to be an SPQR faction for some reason.) Once guilds form there is no option, you HAVE to be in one or you will be crushed. I like doing my own thing without having to answer to anyone else. It's like solo scuba diving. No one else to look after, I can go and do what I want, when I want to do it.

The only guilds I want to see developed more (if any) are Federation, Alliance, Independent and Empire.

 

[JosiahD]

Peeps will be asking for instant-travel for guild members next

no, not now.
but as soon as any form of guilds (and be it only a guildtag) is implemented, the suggestions forum will explode...

Funny, I was postulating on that very likelihood just this morning. For me part of the reason why I'd rather not let the genie out of the bottle in the first place. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Frontier when these sort if topics get discussed.

 

[Ghostickles]

Rather than player controlled guilds which only benefits 1 (potentially) small section of the playerbase why not flesh out the existing NPC factions in the game instead, which from what I can see brings most of the advantages of guilds for multiplayers, but also adds richness for everyone else.

if we can choose to join say the "crimson state" pirate group which are an NPC faction, then that would be a pirate guild if a bunch of players wanted to join it, but equally all of that functionality would be there for everyone else too (ie the "other" 62% of players who cared to vote).

That way each npc faction will have their own set of rules, and we just find one which fits with our own ethics and join that. Better that than having players forming their own cliques and making their own rules imo

Sir, I applaud you for thinking selflessly and out of the box. I like how this is sounds, is doable, allows 'group allegiance', removes 'leadership', works in the lore and would promote like minded players discovering one and other ( assuming ).
It doesn't allow for existing groups to bring themselves into the fold as they are, however, there would have to be some migrating from the created groups to the adopted factions, and groups which are already established may find that problematic.
Regardless this is the most exciting concept Ive read in this thread, simplicity.
By simplicity I mean it sounds like a lot of extra development to make everything smooth and easy but worth the effort in the long run, and way better than further fracturing the players with guild modes.

 

[Dave1235]

Funny, I was postulating on that very likelihood just this morning. For me part of the reason why I'd rather not let the genie out of the bottle in the first place. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Frontier when these sort if topics get discussed.

Me too but I guess this is as close as we will get to being that fly on the wall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzizYUEF9c;t=19m41s

I have for the last ~ 5/6 years been in a guild or wing in a game, I am an 84 but preferred Civ type pve games before the more recent online games.

Whilst guilds/wings fit into WOW/DDO/BSGO etc IMO. Those games community did help keep me interested, playing on TS (or not) with a bunch of virtual mates was fun, I enjoyed it, LFG etc flags fit.

ED is not about a group conquering the world, its a distant relative left you a sidewinder in his/her will, you found 1000 CR under the seat, now its up to you to go make something of yourself, be thankful uncle John might have left you his rusty tractor and a small farm on Lave now that would be dull .

 

[Jorlin]

Everytime i think about guilds, i have to think about a song from my youth.
Might be because i used it in so many guild videos i made

On, on, on, cried the leaders at the back
We went galloping down the blackened hills
And into the gaping trap
...
The massacre now is over and the order new enshrined
While a quarter of the nation are abandoned far behind

[video=youtube;4MOCOmgJ9-g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MOCOmgJ9-g[/video]

 

[Galaxystridor]

First I hate the term guilds its so 1500ish !
They should be called something more modern like say a corporation or Chapter, you get my meaning.

And I hope you do support something akin to guilds in game then the nay sayers don't have to belong to one but its still there for those that do want to belong to structured player run groups.

 

[Ghostickles]

I hate how sometimes completely baised moderation teams pick outdated, one sided and biased polls to merge discussion threads which would otherwise have some clout in determining the games future success.
Agenda much?
Thankfully that never happens on this forum.

 

[magot]

it would be nice to be able to see if a cmdr belongs to certain group .

 

[Renegade Roach]

I hate how sometimes completely baised moderation teams pick outdated, one sided and biased polls to merge discussion threads which would otherwise have some clout in determining the games future success.
Agenda much?
Thankfully that never happens on this forum.

Never, ever. Total impartiality. Uhuh.

 

[Beauseant]

A player being able to align himself with a Major or Minor faction would be a decent start.

Just like in a CZ but persisting at least for a time or until canceled.

Land at a station own by Billy Bobs Gang faction. After getting to Allied with that faction have a Mission to align with that faction. Aligning would give you better missions or payouts for Bounties, Better trade prices, better profit of black market goods for the Pirates Etc you could also share reputation to some extend with other Major/Minor Faction based on that factions alignment.

You Align with a pirate factions every law abiding faction would treat you a little unfriendly. Join a Fed/Empire faction they treat you little better for declaring your allegiance.

Give leaving a joining a new faction a cool down so you can't hop back and forth. And would allow other players to see oh this CMDR flys for this group, or for the Feds or hopefully is friendly.

That alone might give players a little more feeling of belonging to a group. They don't controls the faction like a guild but can still group with similar players.

 

[kreuzbichler]

Vote is over and didn´t vote but NO
this is a one player specific game, and we don´t need another failed multiplayer me-too game.
Everything multiplayer is redundant and is covered by other games.

 

[Ghostickles]

Vote is over and didn´t vote but NO
this is a one player specific game, and we don´t need another failed multiplayer me-too game.
Everything multiplayer is redundant and is covered by other games.

Huh? That poll is from antiquity. Look at the date.
Fast forward to post launch.
Newsflash; Elite Dangerous is liquid multiplayer fail.
Its horrible, from a multiplayer gameplay stand point through to the multiplayer features department.
I was sold a 'spectacular' multiplayer game, what are you saying?
Are you saying FD lied to me?
EDIT: Please notice, you will never hear me saying, NO, don't add anything for Solo players. I wouldn't do that because it would alienate those solo players. I do not understand the typical Solo players aversion to multiplayers doing/requesting multiplayer things, this is perplexing and confusing to me.

 

[jabokai]

I hate how sometimes completely baised moderation teams pick outdated, one sided and biased polls to merge discussion threads which would otherwise have some clout in determining the games future success.
Agenda much?
Thankfully that never happens on this forum.

Why was it one-sided and biased? The original OP has been lost ion the merges, it is here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8368&p=210764&viewfull=1#post210764 I deliberately tried to keep the Q&As no leading. Sorry if you think they led people to vote No somehow.

 

[Ghostickles]

Sorry mate, I worded that poorly, the Poll itself is well done, its the results and the Forum attitude pre-launch which show bias. How many of the Poll participants are still active on Forum or in game?
Ive noticed a lot of people have vanished from this forum, and there are a lot more new faces.The poll is representative of the kickstarters and *alpha backers, who did overwhelmingly not want group support (among other things) and this does not reflect the current player/user base.
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Should have said something more along those lines, because as we see more and more new users are requesting these features.
Furthermore features like this, when well implemented, sell copies, which means more for EVERYONE.
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Regardless, I was wrong, your poll was well balanced, good choices and unbiased.

* edited

 

[Robert Maynard]

Sorry mate, I worded that poorly, the Poll itself is well done, its the results and the Forum attitude pre-launch which show bias. How many of the Poll participants are still active on Forum or in game?

If the poll result had been a massive majority in favour of guilds / guild content would that result still be considered to be biased - or is it simply because the result does not support guilds?

I voted and I'm still here.

 

[CMDR NightsLong]

um I am no doubt missing something but it seems to be a poll containing 566 voters? I'm not sure what that represents (in terms of meaningful data) but it is very very small if that's the case

 

[Robert Maynard]

um I am no doubt missing something but it seems to be a poll containing 566 voters? I'm not sure what that represents (in terms of meaningful data) but it is very very small if that's the case

The poll closed a day or so before Alpha 1.0 was released (early December 2013).

 

[CMDR NightsLong]

The poll closed a day or so before Alpha 1.0 was released (early December 2013).

Ahh ok I didn't check that thanks.

 

[Ghostickles]

Of course it would!
...and it would be equally inappropriate to merge threads calling for removal of groups to that poll, especially so long after the survey results.
Yup, yer still here, and a Mod to boot. Glad for it, but you and me and other pre launch players are becoming rarer.