Guy Managed to export 3D models from Elite
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Presumably the format of the vector models and the method of rendering them in-game are integral to the COBRA engine and would need a licence from Frontier.
Producing a representative model in a different format using standard CAD software (like a .MDL file for MSFS for example) shouldn't be covered by any copyrighting.
Producing a representative model in a different format using standard CAD software (like a .MDL file for MSFS for example) shouldn't be covered by any copyrighting.
It would be great to print 3d models and paint them manually like warhammer figures
I would buy these.
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/85411-how-to-create-your-own-art-using-pgis-mechs/
There is a recent example I can think of regarding extracting assets for art being ok with the devs, which even uses similar programs. I'd love to have the sounds of ED extracted.
There is a recent example I can think of regarding extracting assets for art being ok with the devs, which even uses similar programs. I'd love to have the sounds of ED extracted.
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While the intent may or may not be malicious and it may or may not break the eula. These need to be 3d printed immediately. my Serenity model is lonely and needs a 6-8" FDL
Wait, how could you possibly make a connection between taking out models and photographing them, and handbags?
...oh.
After FDs release video trailer I don't think they need more of those type of videos showing things that aren't in the game.
For use with a 3D printer would be nice. But I'm sure some greedy suit will put a stop to this.
I don't know much about the powers of EULA's and where. That said, this is not a copyright infringement. It's his/her take on that particular ship...same as painting of a painting, or a cover of a song performed live. Monetary gain & plagiarism are largest factors to consider.
I'd say the bounty will be no less than 200 Cr.
Guys and girls,
Aside from any ethical dilemma, the true potential issue with this is that the Model Ripping engine uses the same approach as cheats do (memory injection - messing with Run-time memory and game data). Elite Dangerous EULA, as of now, only warn about malicious code and/or code designed to achieve a unfair advantage over other players - but that can change (other game's eula's usually just goes like "Don't mess with the game files and run-time memory, k, tks")*.
I see lot´s of people talking about 3D models and other merchandise uses - that's probably NOT going to be endorsed. At most, you'll get silence as answer, which means: We won't stop you, but If we eventually get ******, expect some accounts extravaganza. So forget about official essay on that. What we should be asking is if we can use such resources for fan made artwork: Machinimas, wallpapers, image compositions. That's something the dev's could actually give an official answer about. I, for one, would love to play around with Elite models as I did for BF 2142 a while ago.
* Some anti-cheat engines detect 3D model ripping as a cheat, so beware.
Aside from any ethical dilemma, the true potential issue with this is that the Model Ripping engine uses the same approach as cheats do (memory injection - messing with Run-time memory and game data). Elite Dangerous EULA, as of now, only warn about malicious code and/or code designed to achieve a unfair advantage over other players - but that can change (other game's eula's usually just goes like "Don't mess with the game files and run-time memory, k, tks")*.
I see lot´s of people talking about 3D models and other merchandise uses - that's probably NOT going to be endorsed. At most, you'll get silence as answer, which means: We won't stop you, but If we eventually get ******, expect some accounts extravaganza. So forget about official essay on that. What we should be asking is if we can use such resources for fan made artwork: Machinimas, wallpapers, image compositions. That's something the dev's could actually give an official answer about. I, for one, would love to play around with Elite models as I did for BF 2142 a while ago.
* Some anti-cheat engines detect 3D model ripping as a cheat, so beware.
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this, the real issue here
One of my hobbies is building scale models, in particular scratch building. At some point I'll probably try my hand at one of the ships in the game. Say I were to use screen shots of a Python, or even an extracted 3D model, to aid in construction and airbrushing a scale model. Then I post photos of it to the forum because I'm sure there are people here that would enjoy seeing something like that. Going by the letter of the law with the EULA will I get my account banned? Technically FD could if they wanted. But I'm going to err on the side of being reasonable and say probably not. Especially if all I'm doing with the model is displaying it in my hobby room and not selling it on ebay or something else to make a profit.
Actually after reading some of the responses in this thread I can't wait to do just this to see how many people would call for an investigation and banning.
One of my hobbies is building scale models, in particular scratch building. At some point I'll probably try my hand at one of the ships in the game. Say I were to use screen shots of a Python, or even an extracted 3D model, to aid in construction and airbrushing a scale model. Then I post photos of it to the forum because I'm sure there are people here that would enjoy seeing something like that. Going by the letter of the law with the EULA will I get my account banned? Technically FD could if they wanted. But I'm going to err on the side of being reasonable and say probably not. Especially if all I'm doing with the model is displaying it in my hobby room and not selling it on ebay or something else to make a profit.
Actually after reading some of the responses in this thread I can't wait to do just this to see how many people would call for an investigation and banning.
this is getting rather tiresome.. but: the way these 3d models was extracted, and is shown how to do in a certain link by OP is by using a certain program, which is on certain web pages advertised as "100% stealthy" or "cant be detected" is what hackers use to well.. hack games.. or make cheats.
as such anyone who thinks wow this is cool i wanna try this, bec they wannqa do 3d prints or whatever of the ship models (yes that is cool, but it might break the eual, or be a copyright infringement) u must be aware that u might risk get ur account LOCKED, because this is contrary to what some thinks reason for a permanent game ban in many online games (the dll thing program duuuh!)
i asked for link to be removed but its still there after a few hours, IF moderator do find it a inapropriate link and have it removed i wish they also edit my post about this, and all quoted post of mine, so that not evryone get an idea on how to hack a game... still nothing have happend thou
all i did was to warn anyone not aware that they *might* risk there game account trying what is suggested in vid link... it should be removed imo
about the 3d models themselfes, now that is a completely different matter, which most likely aint gonna render a locked account! but using dll injectors is just about the worst stupid thing one can do! seem very few here even realise that
for personal use i doubt fd have much to say, unless used comercially ofc! BUUUUUUUUUUT!!!! its still HOW the models are extracted.. remove the vid link and i might shut up about it
sorry for my weird spelling, i had some nice wine now and english is not my native tounge
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note also that 3D models used to PRINT in 3D may require specific things, that may not be suitable with the in game model
and yes that would be a great way for Frontier to make more money and please fans, offer 3D printed or plastic model kits of ships!
and yes that would be a great way for Frontier to make more money and please fans, offer 3D printed or plastic model kits of ships!
this is getting rather tiresome.. but: the way these 3d models was extracted, and is shown how to do in a certain link by OP is by using a certain program, which is on certain web pages advertised as "100% stealthy" or "cant be detected" is what hackers use to well.. hack games.. or make cheats.
as such anyone who thinks wow this is cool i wanna try this, bec they wannqa do 3d prints or whatever of the ship models (yes that is cool, but it might break the eual, or be a copyright infringement) u must be aware that u might risk get ur account LOCKED, because this is contrary to what some thinks reason for a permanent game ban in many online games (the dll thing program duuuh!)
i asked for link to be removed but its still there after a few hours, IF moderator do find it a inapropriate link and have it removed i wish they also edit my post about this, and all quoted post of mine, so that not evryone get an idea on how to hack a game... still nothing have happend thou
all i did was to warn anyone not aware that they *might* risk there game account trying what is suggested in vid link... it should be removed imo
about the 3d models themselfes, now that is a completely different matter, which most likely aint gonna render a locked account! but using dll injectors is just about the worst stupid thing one can do! seem very few here even realise that
for personal use i doubt fd have much to say, unless used comercially ofc! BUUUUUUUUUUT!!!! its still HOW the models are extracted.. remove the vid link and i might shut up about it
sorry for my weird spelling, i had some nice wine now and english is not my native tounge
Ah, I understand what you're saying. I was just making the point the EULA can be applied as broad or as strict as FD wants. If someone makes a drawing of a ship and posts it to the forum they have "created a derivative work." The same with anyone who creates fan fiction. Technically they would be in violation of the EULA you cited, but we all know ( I would hope) they're not going to get banned for something like that.
Enjoy the wine!
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