Has MultiCrew gone the way of the Dodo too?
- Thread starter Globusdiablo
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Then your conclusions would be incorrect. As of today in the last 2 weeks steam spy says that there where roughly 78000 different people open the the ED launcher on steam. This is up from 61,000 which was on the 18th July. So according to that, player numbers are up. But this statistic isn't perfect as it doesn't tell you how many people opened the client and then closed it again without playing, but I bet that is very few.
If you are using concurrent players (steamcharts), that doesn't tell you about overall player numbers at all. But even that is up at the moment, last week peak concurrent players was just over 4000 and is now up to nearly 7000.
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I'm not sure what's hard about the combat. You move your mouse or stick until your x-hairs are over the target. When I first got FE2, I sucked at the game. It took me a while to learn how to fight. There is nothing complicated to learn in ED as far as fighting goes against the AI. It's easy enough to learn.
On top of that, the suggestions given over time of how to offer both have been given too. Make safer zones and more dangerous zones is pretty easy to do. That way you can tailor the AI to represent actions and skills depending on where you are in the universe. Multiple threads and posts have discussed how to do this at length - most answer the question of keeping unskilled players safe and also having areas for skilled and then in between.
The crazy thing is, FDev have a 400 billion sized galaxy. I can't believe for a moment that something can't be worked out given an almost infinite play area.
I think Braben quoted the play time around a month or two for the average player.
Steam charts over 6 months are trending down. It doesn't matter what the peaks are. The numbers of course aren't reflective of total players which make up...
None Steam players (so all early buyers like you and I don't use steam to play the game but we have no way of knowing how many they are)
Steam Players
Xbox Players
And soon to be PlayStation players which I imagine will inject a vast number of players into the game. As far as player numbers go, I think there's plenty of resource to tap for more cash so ED won't be going anywhere anytime soon but the PS is the last injection. If they fail to keep the players engaged then word of mouth will spread. It's important that the next major update addresses the things we've been asking for I think because everyone has taken a trip to the salt mines and when that happens, it's doesn't take much more for people to quit altogether.
As stated, steam charts are concurrent player. We could have the exact same amount of people playing the game, but they are playing less often and therefore less likely to be playing at the same time. Steam charts doesn't tell you much.
Have to disagree with you on thatone.
I think both terms are as derogatory as "whiners", "moaners", "haters" etc.
Certainly haven't seen them used in a complimentary manner yet.
Sure, there are likely to be a few people around for each of those terms who fit the bill.
But perhaps in those cases it's better to just "think the thought" and not "speak the word"...and i know, it can be tough not to, and yes, i have overstepped the line too.
I try to consider myself "better than that", because for me , using any such terms disqualifies the entire post (and to a degree the poster too).
And i'm just a common guy, no stranger to street, stadium and pub language, nothing posh about me.
But that doesn't mean i can't at least try to keep it civilized when talking to people i know nothing about and have never met.
Have a few pints at the pub and discuss politics, football, whatever, and i'll tell ya straight to your face if i think you're a bloody twit .
As for the topic, yeah i also think MC was a DOA-DO.
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Not when you marry it up with Braben's (or FDev's) statement that player retention is only a few months.
When did they say that? Never seen it myself. But to be honest it probably is true, but that would be the same for most games as well. There are probably over 2 million sales on PC, and probably around 100,000 people play it long term at a guess (remember most people don't play every day). So yes for the vast majority, people will play for a couple of months and then go on to other games. But this is pretty standard for most games.
But the game continues to sell, and when new updates come out, player numbers rocket up as you would expect. Hopefully when the core mechanic updates come out there will be more retention of players as the game world becomes a more interesting place to play.
Well I'll give you that, I'm not arguing FD know what they are doing right now (I think my post history speaks for itself there). I don't want legs NOW but I would like it later after season 3 (assuming season 3 shows they've understood that pointing your ship at a nav beacon for 5 seconds is not sensor interaction or bounty hunting).
The white-knighterery was crammed on the board about a year ago. You couldn't raise an issue with the game without the same old tried defenses being thrown at you. There are still some of same posters here in smaller numbers (I won't name them I don't mean anything bad about them personally) that will literally defend even the worse parts of the game and blame the player often acting like the game is hard or difficult and players that see its lack of depth and other faults just "don't get it".
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I can confirm the mining works quite well.
You can let gunner fire laser and helm can operate cargo scoop or fight off pirates.
But a lack of rewards for crew hampers it at the moment.
I also think that multi-crew should be an actual presence, then if main ship is destroyed, all crew die.
To join a crew you should all be in same star base.
It might be good if other crew could fly ship. And not all crew need be present. Ship could be flown 24-7.
I would think being able to post job adverts on bulletin boards would be good for this. ( I think a controlled input will be needed here.
)In addition I feel all vehicles, land and air should be remotely operated. So losing an SRV has no more consequences than losing a fighter. So then crew can drive them.
If we get 'space legs' then you're at perils of the environment as separate individuals. (I'm not! I hear?
)Anyway multi-crew is still going to be a bit part feature I think.
Shame really because it has potential in many areas.
I feel the core mechanic update/updates could bring more players back than any given content update has managed so far.
It's certainly the best news i have heard (since release) when they announced it, and for me personally the bigger news by far compared to 2.4
Can pretty much sign the rest of your post, apart from the "rocket up" bit.
I have been here since original beta. I am sorry but this is just rubbish. I saw lots of differences of opinion and you got some call people names because that person didnt agree with them,m and that's it, I have seen some people defend some stuff I didn't agree with, but they all have a right to enjoy it, and if they did, good luck to them. I found it all pretty nasty to be honest and still find the name calling pretty unpleasent. It is bullying at the end of the day. Luckily I am at an age where I can ignore or absorb it most of the time.
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Have to disagree with you on thatone.
I think both terms are as derogatory as "whiners", "moaners", "haters" etc.
Certainly haven't seen them used in a complimentary manner yet.
Sure, there are likely to be a few people around for each of those terms who fit the bill.
But perhaps in those cases it's better to just "think the thought" and not "speak the word"...and i know, it can be tough not to, and yes, i have overstepped the line too.
I try to consider myself "better than that", because for me , using any such terms disqualifies the entire post (and to a degree the poster too).
And i'm just a common guy, no stranger to street, stadium and pub language, nothing posh about me.
But that doesn't mean i can't at least try to keep it civilized when talking to people i know nothing about and have never met.
Have a few pints at the pub and discuss politics, football, whatever, and i'll tell ya straight to your face if i think you're a bloody twit .
As for the topic, yeah i also think MC was a DOA-DO.
One shall endeavour to improve...honestly though Ill get along better with ye if ye did tell me to my face I was a bloody twit. That I would respect more because it shows conviction.
Im a little less patient today because the very names you compare mine to were used on me in this very thread already. At the time, I merely walked away but today Im just...less patient than usual. That is a failing on my part I hold my hands upto that...but the context of what I wrote, I stand by every other word...just edit out what looks like a derogatory name and we good to go ^
Im like this in real life too Im afraid...I say whats on my mind and care little whether anyone likes it or not. In real life, I care much less and am much more direct than online...good days and bad days sorta thing ^
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I think that ship has sailed. Many of us expected actual detailed multicrew but what we got was an arcade shooter.
Most of that can be put down to MC going into the game before it was really ready for it, so maybe we'll get more later after gameplay depth has been worked on and legs has been (maybe, who knows) added (and hopefully done well).
I feel the core mechanic update/updates could bring more players back than any given content update has managed so far.
It's certainly the best news i have heard (since release) when they announced it, and for me personally the bigger news by far compared to 2.4
Can pretty much sign the rest of your post, apart from the "rocket up" bit.
After 2.3 hit player number did go up a lot, but fell straight back down to the usual 70-80000 players in the last 2 weeks. Probably because the multcrew update that was released was not what people where hoping for.
Doesn't say anthing about player retention on that. And thats figure for December 2015.