Ya this is what I’ve heard before and the impetus for my question - what is “cold enough to drop from the scanners”?
% heat to avoid detection?
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Ya this is what I’ve heard before and the impetus for my question - what is “cold enough to drop from the scanners”?
Hmm so he doesn’t mention heat? I’ll go read your link. I suspect his list may not be comprehensive because lots of people have interrupted scans by using heatsinks.
I'm pretty sure the exact value depends on the 'typical emmision range' of the scanner. Maybe even the sip type/size.
We should do some science to it
Okay, some science later...
conda with 8a ligh-weight scanner (7.68km typical emission range) against cutter
The first number is the range the ship lost the lock, the second is distance to regain it
Temperature was changed by switching modules of
5% 1100m-950m (only life-support)
12% 1100m-950m (ls+gfsdb+scb)
15% 2150m-1950m- (ls + thrusters)
19% 3900m-3700m (ls+thrusters+fsdb+scb)
20% 5200m-4900m (everything but shields)
So I'd say: 10% is a good value
conda with 8a ligh-weight scanner (7.68km typical emission range) against cutter
The first number is the range the ship lost the lock, the second is distance to regain it
Temperature was changed by switching modules of
5% 1100m-950m (only life-support)
12% 1100m-950m (ls+gfsdb+scb)
15% 2150m-1950m- (ls + thrusters)
19% 3900m-3700m (ls+thrusters+fsdb+scb)
20% 5200m-4900m (everything but shields)
So I'd say: 10% is a good value
In PVE, i don't think heat makes that much of a difference. I fight all the time with thermal vent laser ships that keep freezing and havent really noticed a difference in NPC behavior compared to when i m using a hotter ship. Pity cause i 'd love me stealth builds, its the one thing missing from this game i think!
He doesn't mention heat because his comments were with regards to how NPCs spot you in a low heat/silent running situation, not how they scan you.
Dropping heat sinks works to counter scans in the same way going into silent running works to counter scans: it drops your emissions to near zero (in the case of a heat sink, only momtentarily) so NPCs have to move to auto-resolve range before they can resume the scan.
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OP: running cool against NPCs doesn't matter. This topic comes up every 6 months or so. The 'mechanic' hasn't worked in a long time (ever?). Fans explain it away as 'eyeballing' but it simply is not working - most likely for gameplay reasons or due to other dev priorities like making paints, snowy rocks, etc.
If someone does believe it's working then simply point to the specific FDev release note where this was stated as being fixed / enabled, whatever... and the debate will be over. Better yet, post a YouTube video where we can see the NPCs actually responding.
If someone does believe it's working then simply point to the specific FDev release note where this was stated as being fixed / enabled, whatever... and the debate will be over. Better yet, post a YouTube video where we can see the NPCs actually responding.
Thanks, that’s super interesting!
think of it this way... my DBS is super cold... I cruise at 14%... an enemy can lock onto me at 500m away. However if im boosting or firing, my heat raises to 19%, and I can be locked on to at 750m. (this excludes Silent running). at 0% (heatsink) your ship CAN NOT be LOCKED-ON to from any distance... but at 1%... it can be again... just gotta be CLOSE
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To be fair, people aren't NPCs, unfortunately – though they might as well be. Would prefer a bit more constancy in that regard; just saying.
For me, speed simply wins hands down. I've never been scanned if I didn't want to be. Drop in (from any direction just about) boost, FA off and initiate slow rotation to line the ship up with the letterbox, request docking, hit FA on to slow the ship down (I find FA off can bring the ship to a dead stop faster than I ever can, for some reason), then full throttle in, by the time I have landed, about 40 seconds has elapsed from drop in, maybe 50 if it's a really large ship and I was distracted by something.
Basically, the scan stop when you are through the letterbox, the less time you are out there, the less chance of a scan, and that means speed.
Oh, I've also never taken out another ship, because I can fly, and I've never been Suicide-Windered, because I pay attention to my surroundings.
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Basically, the scan stop when you are through the letterbox, the less time you are out there, the less chance of a scan, and that means speed.
Oh, I've also never taken out another ship, because I can fly, and I've never been Suicide-Windered, because I pay attention to my surroundings.
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I prefer meat over blood sausage, but other than that, this meats with my approval...
LOL
It absolutly does not and you will be sorry if you get caught. I already explianed a 100% foolproof way of getting in.
10 seconds seems like an excessive length of time to know where someone is after having lost sight of them.