I stand corrected, DEFINATELY NOT tanked
Horizons tanked in sales?
- Thread starter MrRixter
- Start date
- Status
I stand corrected, DEFINATELY NOT tanked
Let's just be crystal clear here.... This is what the OP, and all those others who played a game they hate, for hundreds of hours, actually want.... because.... entitlement.
FD wouldn't change the game, that was clearly and transparently advertised exactly as is, including the business model, to their personal whim, and had the audacity to try "to pull" something as heinous as funding further development.
Entitlement is the motive... nothing more.
Last edited:
Can't say it any better than this. Attempting to damage the game and entitlement is exactly why this thread was started. I wish a moderator would lock it.
By the way, have some rep.
I'd like them to lock it too, provided they reopen it at the end of January, when there's actual facts to discuss. Until then, this and any thread like it, is simply a platform for people who have a vendetta against FD.
Let's wait for a year before we judge sales figures. I haven't bought Horizons yet as I'm pretty busy and my gaming time is taken up with other titles at the moment.
However Elite is not forgotten and i will be getting Horizons before long. I suspect this is the case for others so to judge it's success when it was released in a conjested period of games releases is somewhat short sighted!
However Elite is not forgotten and i will be getting Horizons before long. I suspect this is the case for others so to judge it's success when it was released in a conjested period of games releases is somewhat short sighted!
XB1 units shifted for Elite
angerous
ffrr, perhaps you just aren't looking hard enough?
Whilst Frontier haven't explicitly stated XB1 sales of ED, information has been available.
Since the ED Kickstarter inception the (now defunct) Kickstarter Backers' Page was updating more-than-hourly the 'Raised' and 'Backers' figures for Elite Dangerous.
This information was only available to Kickstarter Backers with a valid login.
However, a kindly soul (and Elite Greeter) INaeem was regularly updating the thread: Current funding through kickstarter, backer’s app and zaonce store
BTW Thanks again INaeem for your 'Welcome Home Commander!' post when I left the Kickstarter Comments section and graduated to this Forum %^]
The Kickstarter Backers' page has since ceased reporting 'Raised' and 'Backers' figures - but not before XB1 launch.
ED XB1 launch (GPP) was on 15th June 2015
Here are the figures before and after that date:
5th June - 17th June
5th June £17,146,473 raised - 551,875 backers
6th June £17,152,818 raised - 552,983 backers
7th June £17,160,101 raised - 554,434 backers
8th June £17,164,223 raised - 555,731 backers
9th June £17,167,611 raised - 556,579 backers
10th June £17,170,563 raised - 557,301 backers
11h June £17,173,558 raised - 557,816 backers
12th June £17,176,049 raised - 558,935 backers
13th June £17,179,303 raised - 560,419 backers
14th June £17,182,741 raised - 561,936 backers
15th June £17,185,310 raised - 563,025 backers
16th June £17,187,585 raised - 574,694 backers
17th June £17,192,622 raised - 611,367 backers
Pre-XB1 launch (from 5th to 15th) the daily average was ~1,000 backers(units)/day
Post-XB1 launch (from 15th to 17th) the daily average was ~24,000 backers(units)/day
Removing the Pre-XB1 daily average, that yields ~23,000 XB1 units/day immediately after launch.
That was 6 entire months ago - during which period the game has subsequently moved out of GPP and into full release on 6th October 2015.
So, within those 6 months a further 2.5 months on full release.
The XBox Store page for ED currently shows 7,874 reviews with an average score from these user reviews of 4/5 (...would interdict again
Now, it's anyone's guess as to what proportion of XB1 players bother to review a game, but if we take the Steam Store as a starting point:
ED
607,379 'owners' and 10,330 reviews (1.7% bother to review)
EDH
34,248 'owners' and 397 reviews (1.16% bother to review)
So, let's pessimistically say that for some inexplicable reason 10 times as many XB1 owners bother to review ED on XB1 as for Steam (~10%)
Those 7,874 XB1 reviews would then represent at least 78,740 XB1 'owners' (...and potentially a lot more if the actual percentage bothering to review XB1 games is more like the Steam percentage - if the percentage bothering to review for XB1 is vastly different to Steam, can anyone explain why that might be?)
angerousffrr, perhaps you just aren't looking hard enough?
Whilst Frontier haven't explicitly stated XB1 sales of ED, information has been available.
Since the ED Kickstarter inception the (now defunct) Kickstarter Backers' Page was updating more-than-hourly the 'Raised' and 'Backers' figures for Elite Dangerous.
This information was only available to Kickstarter Backers with a valid login.
However, a kindly soul (and Elite Greeter) INaeem was regularly updating the thread: Current funding through kickstarter, backer’s app and zaonce store
BTW Thanks again INaeem for your 'Welcome Home Commander!' post when I left the Kickstarter Comments section and graduated to this Forum %^]
The Kickstarter Backers' page has since ceased reporting 'Raised' and 'Backers' figures - but not before XB1 launch.
ED XB1 launch (GPP) was on 15th June 2015
Here are the figures before and after that date:
5th June - 17th June
5th June £17,146,473 raised - 551,875 backers
6th June £17,152,818 raised - 552,983 backers
7th June £17,160,101 raised - 554,434 backers
8th June £17,164,223 raised - 555,731 backers
9th June £17,167,611 raised - 556,579 backers
10th June £17,170,563 raised - 557,301 backers
11h June £17,173,558 raised - 557,816 backers
12th June £17,176,049 raised - 558,935 backers
13th June £17,179,303 raised - 560,419 backers
14th June £17,182,741 raised - 561,936 backers
15th June £17,185,310 raised - 563,025 backers
16th June £17,187,585 raised - 574,694 backers
17th June £17,192,622 raised - 611,367 backers
Pre-XB1 launch (from 5th to 15th) the daily average was ~1,000 backers(units)/day
Post-XB1 launch (from 15th to 17th) the daily average was ~24,000 backers(units)/day
Removing the Pre-XB1 daily average, that yields ~23,000 XB1 units/day immediately after launch.
That was 6 entire months ago - during which period the game has subsequently moved out of GPP and into full release on 6th October 2015.
So, within those 6 months a further 2.5 months on full release.
The XBox Store page for ED currently shows 7,874 reviews with an average score from these user reviews of 4/5 (...would interdict again
Now, it's anyone's guess as to what proportion of XB1 players bother to review a game, but if we take the Steam Store as a starting point:
ED
607,379 'owners' and 10,330 reviews (1.7% bother to review)
EDH
34,248 'owners' and 397 reviews (1.16% bother to review)
So, let's pessimistically say that for some inexplicable reason 10 times as many XB1 owners bother to review ED on XB1 as for Steam (~10%)
Those 7,874 XB1 reviews would then represent at least 78,740 XB1 'owners' (...and potentially a lot more if the actual percentage bothering to review XB1 games is more like the Steam percentage - if the percentage bothering to review for XB1 is vastly different to Steam, can anyone explain why that might be?)
Last edited:
ffrr, perhaps you just aren't looking hard enough?
Whilst Frontier haven't explicitly stated XB1 sales of ED, information has been available.
Since the ED Kickstarter inception The now defunct Kickstarter Backers' Page was updating more-than-hourly the 'Raised' and 'Backers' figures for Elite Dangerous.
Exellent post, very informative, and unlike some contributions to the thread, containing actual verified facts...
This information was only available to Kickstarter Backers with a valid login.
However, a kindly soul (and Elite Greeter) INaeem was regularly updating the thread Current funding through kickstarter, backer’s app and zaonce store
BTW Thanks again INaeem for your 'Welcome Home Commander!' post when I left the Kickstarter Comments section and graduated to this Forum %^]
The Kickstarter Backers' page has since ceased reporting 'Raised' and 'Backers' figures - but not before XB1 launch.
ED XB1 launch (GPP) was on 15th June 2015
Here are the figures before and after that date:
5th June - 17th June
5th June £17,146,473 raised - 551,875 backers
6th June £17,152,818 raised - 552,983 backers
7th June £17,160,101 raised - 554,434 backers
8th June £17,164,223 raised - 555,731 backers
9th June £17,167,611 raised - 556,579 backers
10th June £17,170,563 raised - 557,301 backers
11h June £17,173,558 raised - 557,816 backers
12th June £17,176,049 raised - 558,935 backers
13th June £17,179,303 raised - 560,419 backers
14th June £17,182,741 raised - 561,936 backers
15th June £17,185,310 raised - 563,025 backers
16th June £17,187,585 raised - 574,694 backers
17th June £17,192,622 raised - 611,367 backers
Pre-XB1 launch (from 5th to 15th) the daily average was ~1,000 backers(units)/day
Post-XB1 launch (from 15th to 17th) the daily average was ~24,000 backers(units)/day
Removing the Pre-XB1 daily average, that yields ~23,000 XB1 units/day immediately after launch.
That was 6 entire months ago - during which period the game has subsequently moved out of GPP and into full release on 6th October 2015.
So, a further 2.5 months on full release.
The XBox Store page for ED currently shows 7,874 reviews with an average score from these user reviews of 4/5 (...would interdict again
Now, it's anyone's guess as to what proportion of XB1 players bother to review a game, but if we take the Steam Store as a starting point:
ED
607,379 'owners' and 10,330 reviews (1.7% bother to review)
EDH
34,248 'owners' and 397 reviews (1.16% bother to review)
So, let's pessimistically say that for some inexplicable reason 10 times as many XB1 owners bother to review ED on XB1 as for Steam (~10%)
Those 7,874 XB1 reviews would then represent at least 78,740 XB1 'owners' (...and potentially a lot more if the actual percentage bothering to review XB1 games is more like the Steam percentage - if the percentage bothering to review for XB1 is vastly different to Steam, can anyone explain why that might be?)
Excellent post, very informative, and unlike some contributions to the thread, containing verifiable facts...
Excellent post, very informative, and unlike some contributions to the thread, containing verifiable facts...
Thanks Runnybabbit!
It's an edit of a post I made to the Kickstarter Comments section months and months ago, but since it didn't fit with the half a dozen naysayer's world-views (despite containing verifiable data) it was somewhat [FINGERSTOEARS] ignored [/FINGERSTOEARS]
No probs, I appreciate the effort put into gathering the figures, makes a change from some of the so-called 'facts' that have been bandied about.. It's only virtual rep for now until I can spread a bit more around, but have a helping anyway...
No need to lock the thread, time will provide the facts to either validate or invalidate the OP's conjecture. Any attempt to judge this games health purely on speculative figures from only a 3rd party source, is like using a finger to the wrist, in place of an ecg, to analyse a patients heart condition, pretty much all you have is a pulse to go by.
Last edited:
I concur.
The OP brought "competely* unreliable" data to a statistician's convention and drew potentially unsound conclusions from said data.
Many words have been typed on all sides, but time will be the arbiter of this one.
*Sergei 'Steamspy' Galyonkin's words, not mine
You're misreppsing all the signups for the free Xbox trial that FD gave away at that time as sales.
That is complete nonsense.
My dentist is enjoying this thread.
ffrr, free signups often lead to converted sales - a proportion of those ~46,000 free-trials (in just two days, remember, GPP ran for a further 3.5 months
will undoubtedly have become GPP paid units46,000 sign-ups to a free trial is not bad over a two day period.
Compare and contrast with the doom-prophecy that started this entire thread (of 580 posts) surrounding EDH "tanking" (...apparently it's still 10,000 less than 46,000 units... 8 days in)
Regardless, the XB1 unit sales figures may be in the upcoming official report to the market - as it will cover the period around XB1 launch - so you may be unpleasantly displeased quite soon in January/February
To what are you referring, exactly?
- The objective fact that the XBox store states 7,874 Reviews with a 4/5 average rating?
- The objective facts of the respective percentages of ED Steam 'owners' who have bothered to review ED or EDH?
- The possibility that ED XB1 owners are more likely than ED Steam owners to be bothered to review ED?
- The possibility that ED XB1 owners are less likely than ED Steam owners to be bothered to review ED?
- The possibility that ED XB1 owners are exactly as likelyas ED Steam owners to be bothered to review ED?
Last edited:
If you think everyone who bought EDH likes it, then I wonder what you think of the fact ALL the reviews featured on the game's Steam store page are negative.
Some have side drums and bagpipes, but Christianity is not optional (for the Boys' Brigade that is, the fanboy brigade can do what they like).
Last edited:
A lot of people who already bought the game and found the lack of depth, lack of MMO social features, and little sand in the sandbox enough reason to not pay that much for Horizons.
If Frontier wants the current player-base to buy their future expansions they MUST use an excavator to dig the shallow sandbox a LOT deeper with social, crafting, managing, trading, guild and other MMO features.
Eve Online still has on a single day 40,000 Players online at the same time. Elite Dangerous players stop playing a lot earlier, because they get bored of the lack of depth, variety and other MMO features.
Most Elite players wouldn't pay a monthly subscription fee, because Elite doesn't have a player driven, emergent, living, breathing, deep sandbox galaxy yet.
- NPCs spawn out of nowhere with the same nicknames.
- PowerPlay is like a game of Risk
- The Powers have little differentiation
- Can't create and manage a guild, outpost, station, solar system
- Can't chat with your guild, or group (only 1 wing of 4 people).
- No NPC life or vehicles at starports. Only skimmers and some ships docking.
- No NPC ship dog fighting on planets.
And so on.
Last edited:
- Status