Horizons: VR stutters slightly, only in stations

[Malvinas]

After going through the mailslot, some stutter occurs. As soon as I'm docked, stutter goes away, but then when I access de "Station Services" menu (which imposes a 'blurry' overlay), the stutter comes back, and is more noticeable. Moving around the menu is a bit laggy, and looking around causes some reprojection.
It's not game-breaking or unbearable, but it's there, and it doesn't go away.
Other areas of the game, like supercruise, open space, planet surfaces and whatnot, play with no problem at all, at a nice smooth framerate.
My system specs are old (so not so say laughable), and 'entry level' for ED.
The game is basically in 'vanilla' state, I haven't modded or 'tuned' my system or the game in any particular way. Everything is fresh installed and has been left untouched as it was downloaded.
As for Odyssey, it's just laggy, wherever I go in VR, and flat out unplayable in and around stations.
I feel like the game is greatly optimised (and has been worked on lately), in the VR aspect, but there's still some tweaking and fine tuning to do about the gameplay in stations.
If there's anything I could do to improve it, advises are more than welcome (not change/upgrade my HW, that's not an option for me r/n).

My specs and config:
CPU: FX 8350
MB: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
GPU: GTX 970
RAM: 8GB
Disk: SSD 1TB
OS: Win 10 64bit
VR HMD: Oculus Quest (not Quest 2).

Gfx config: VR High

Sidenote: The motherboard came with two 'USB 3 ports', and USB 3 devices run in USB 3 mode just fine, except for the Oculus Quest. I have tried a lot of things, and couldn't get it to run at 90hz, there is just no way around this, with this motherboard. Getting the Quest to run at 90hz would most definitively require a HW upgrade.

 

[DeckerSolo]

Options w/o hardware upgrades:
Make sure you have all the latest drivers (BIOS, GPU, W10, HDM etc)
Uninstall / turn off all W10 bloatware (Winaero Tweeker is good for this)
Make sure all unnecessary background tasks are not running
Overclock / Optimise hardware in BIOS (CPU & RAM)
Overclock / Optimise GPU (MSI Afterburner)
Set NVIDIA driver to Prefer Maximim Performance
Turn W10 gaming mode off
Set W10 to high power / performance mode

 

[Malvinas]

Options w/o hardware upgrades:
...
Overclock / Optimise GPU (MSI Afterburner)

Thanks for the tips. Some of those I already did, and performance has improved noticeably, even and especially within stations. But I'll go the extra-mile, what option should I look for in my GPU tweak tool? (I have an ASUS Strix GTX 970 4GB, which also comes with a tweaking tool).

 

[CMDR Is Fat]

For vr with older hardware i would reccomend trying Vrperfkit or Open Composite either of these can bring big gains in Odyssey.
Have a read through this thread.

Any luck running OpenCompositeACC + OpenXR toolkit?

Has anybody managed to run OpencompositeACC in Elite? It basically allows the game to run without SteamVR. Once you can run it without SteamVR you can run a wonderful piece of software called OpenXR Toolkit that allow you control image scaling, FOV render and very importantly use 20, 30 and 45...

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[DeckerSolo]

Thanks for the tips. Some of those I already did, and performance has improved noticeably, even and especially within stations. But I'll go the extra-mile, what option should I look for in my GPU tweak tool? (I have an ASUS Strix GTX 970 4GB, which also comes with a tweaking tool).

Not sure about your "GPU Tweek" tool which I think is specific to your Asus GPU.
I'm using a Nvidia Founders edition card which just uses an Nvidia Driver and Nvidia Control Panel, see attachment.

 

[BigBANGtheory [VR]]

troll post imho

1. look at the users name
2. a CPU: FX 8350 plus GPU: GTX 970 playing VR in 2022
3. Playing VR Odyssey
4. Using setting VR High

Come on no one does that, and I literally mean no one.

@Mods could you please see if this is a duplicate account?

 

[CMDR Is Fat]

troll post imho

1. look at the users name
2. a CPU: FX 8350 plus GPU: GTX 970 playing VR in 2022
3. Playing VR Odyssey
4. Using setting VR High

Come on no one does that, and I literally mean no one.

@Mods could you please see if this is a duplicate account?

I love to give ppl the benefit of the doubt, but hmmm, maybe

 

[thistle]

troll post imho

1. look at the users name
2. a CPU: FX 8350 plus GPU: GTX 970 playing VR in 2022
3. Playing VR Odyssey
4. Using setting VR High

Come on no one does that, and I literally mean no one.

@Mods could you please see if this is a duplicate account?

It's pretty much identical to my pc, before a gpu upgrade from a 970 to a cheap 2060 recently. And its entirely playable in Horizons on VR high. Not so in Odyssey obviously.

So yes, literally some people do play on those specs.

 

[VR andysonofbob]

After going through the mailslot, some stutter occurs. As soon as I'm docked, stutter goes away, but then when I access de "Station Services" menu (which imposes a 'blurry' overlay), the stutter comes back, and is more noticeable. Moving around the menu is a bit laggy, and looking around causes some reprojection.
It's not game-breaking or unbearable, but it's there, and it doesn't go away.
Other areas of the game, like supercruise, open space, planet surfaces and whatnot, play with no problem at all, at a nice smooth framerate.
My system specs are old (so not so say laughable), and 'entry level' for ED.
The game is basically in 'vanilla' state, I haven't modded or 'tuned' my system or the game in any particular way. Everything is fresh installed and has been left untouched as it was downloaded.
As for Odyssey, it's just laggy, wherever I go in VR, and flat out unplayable in and around stations.
I feel like the game is greatly optimised (and has been worked on lately), in the VR aspect, but there's still some tweaking and fine tuning to do about the gameplay in stations.
If there's anything I could do to improve it, advises are more than welcome (not change/upgrade my HW, that's not an option for me r/n).

My specs and config:
CPU: FX 8350
MB: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
GPU: GTX 970
RAM: 8GB
Disk: SSD 1TB
OS: Win 10 64bit
VR HMD: Oculus Quest (not Quest 2).

Gfx config: VR High

Sidenote: The motherboard came with two 'USB 3 ports', and USB 3 devices run in USB 3 mode just fine, except for the Oculus Quest. I have tried a lot of things, and couldn't get it to run at 90hz, there is just no way around this, with this motherboard. Getting the Quest to run at 90hz would most definitively require a HW upgrade.

Have you run the Oculus Debug Tool? If you show the performance overlay, that can show you what is going on.
It's found: Program Files\Oculus\Support\oculus-diagnostics\

I imaging you will see the left line graph is typically locked at 40Hz (or whatever half of the Quest's native is) until it judders. And when it judders you will see the right side headroom linegraph dip below negative 100% (you won't see it because the graph doesn't do a good job of showing negative numebrs but you can read the display)

It sounds like your PC is dipping below the ASW range, which makes it juddery.

 

[VR andysonofbob]

For vr with older hardware i would reccomend trying Vrperfkit or Open Composite either of these can bring big gains in Odyssey.
Have a read through this thread.

Any luck running OpenCompositeACC + OpenXR toolkit?

Has anybody managed to run OpencompositeACC in Elite? It basically allows the game to run without SteamVR. Once you can run it without SteamVR you can run a wonderful piece of software called OpenXR Toolkit that allow you control image scaling, FOV render and very importantly use 20, 30 and 45...

forums.frontier.co.uk

I am too lazy to try this but has anyone compared this to the Oculus runtime? It is just the Oculus runtime performs noticably better than SteamVR. Like it or not I doubt anything will out-perform Oculus's runtime.

Spoiler: Justifying the abovementioned assertion

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d70uxV5gslo
Testing carried out that compared the performance of the G2 vs Q2 (via Link) HMDs showed almost identical HMD performance when using Steam VR.

However all Oculus users have experienced for themselves how the Oculus native runtime performance noticable out-performs the SteamVR runtime when using the Q2. Therefore Oculus runtime is noticably better than SteamVR's runtime

 

[CMDR Is Fat]

I am too lazy to try this but has anyone compared this to the Oculus runtime? It is just the Oculus runtime performs noticably better than SteamVR. Like it or not I doubt anything will out-perform Oculus's runtime.

Maybe a google search for either Open Composite or Vrperfkit will give you your answer.
Like it or not, you may be surprised, or maybe not

Edit - Vrperkit is 2 files dropped into your game folder, edit the config and run the game, if it works for you great, if not, delete them. Nothing lost except maybe 10 mins editing the cfg and running the game.
Open Composite I havnt really tried but isnt too difficult to use either, both make a difference, whether that is for the better only you can decide

 

[VR andysonofbob]

Maybe a google search for either Open Composite or Vrperfkit will give you your answer.
Like it or not, you may be surprised, or maybe not

Edit - Vrperkit is 2 files dropped into your game folder, edit the config and run the game, if it works for you great, if not, delete them. Nothing lost except maybe 10 mins editing the cfg and running running the game.
Open Composite I havnt really tried but isnt too difficult to use either, both make a difference, whether that is for the better only you can decide

Fiiiiiine!

Go on then. I will give it a try and report back