Eh? Did my use of the phrase "a bit daft" convince you that I'm a PvPer? Mobius is my favourite mode.
How could players be encouraged to put themselves into dangerous pvp scenarios, even when they don't have to?
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Oh cool. Maybe we will bump into each other one day!
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Not sure if that was their motivation for designing the game in this way. Given past experience, I suspect it came down to meeting a demand with a minimum of time and resources.
If it brings people no closer to the stated aim, then absolutely. Remember, this thread is supposedly about encouraging players to put themselves into dangerous PvP scenarios, even when they don't have to, not a ganker circle jerk on how somehow players would for no apparent reason choose to become gank-bait while gankers could continue ganking with impunity without making the slightest sacrifice for this common goal.
To begin with there appears to a complete disconnect between PvP players and non-PvP players. PvP players need open because they want to conduct PvP with total strangers. Non-PvP players have no such need and their social needs are already met by private groups. This is a point that simply does not appear to compute with PvP players here.
Secondly, non-PvP players are going to principally trading and exploring. Given ED's load-out and ship model, this means that precious modules that could be devoted to cargo or even left empty (for greater jump distance) would have to be devoted to defense (let alone offense, because that's simply a non-starter for any hauler of exploration ship faced with a loaded FDL). And this would add to the grind for them, which isn't going to be very encouraging.
Yet none of these people with a common interest or polite manner, you speak of, have offered any suggestion that is even vaguely on topic, instead suggesting utterly colour-blind and self serving suggestions designed only to fulfill their PvP game play aspirations. Given the supposed purpose of this thread, most would call it a complete waste of time and bandwidth. Why don't you have the same discussion but call it "wouldn't it be nice if we have a constant flow of care bears in open to pew-pew?" At least then it would be on topic.
I have offered at least one suggestion and I have seen several others, in there amongst the general noise.
maybe the OP would like to make a summary???
I mean it probably would and wouldn't..
as I see it, there would be a lot of community improvement, though perhaps in a manner that would be alien to some, the change by itself would probably cause a meltdown from those who got really-into BGS or PP... Gankers would probably join in the Chorus there
I'm saying that the game isn't serving anyone particularly well. PVP-multi, PVE-multi, Solo, etc.
I'm curious how you think this game is serving traders well at all when there's basically no real ingame economy, stuff like storage is an endgame treat, rather than something that any player might have, and navigation within The Bubble isn't really compelling.
I've not said that suggestions have not been offered, only that they've to date been utterly colour-blind and self serving rubbish, that wouldn't convince anyone with an IQ above room temperature.
I never said the game is serving traders well. That's not the topic of the discussion. I said that solo is serving traders far better than open can presently offer.
Please specify why my suggestion was self serving rubbish. I’m also not color blind.
You've not made any useful suggestion on what would encourage players into open. At least not for the last dozen pages or so. Or perhaps your opinion of what would encourage players into open differs from mine. And why not, I'm just an example of who you're trying to convince.
Okay - here's a suggestion that would encourage players like me into Open:
A no non-consensual PvP pact made and enforced by the community, with player-killers hunted down and treated like the dogs they are. Similar to the no cheating pact.
A no non-consensual PvP pact made and enforced by the community, with player-killers hunted down and treated like the dogs they are. Similar to the no cheating pact.
My suggestions were made fairly early in the thread, so what should I do? Keeping repeating them?? Before dropping in at page 100 and insulting people, you should at least check your facts.
Sure, I've had to repeat the suggestions I've made early in this thread too, not to mention repeat things like why the "higher rewards in open" approach is doomed to fail.
So I’m still waiting for your reasoned comments on my suggestions. Do you actually know what they are?
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Something broke in the quote.
As I said, I've looked and found none. So clearly you have made none.
Lol, what is that?
Do you mean this?
Or maybe you meant this?
Did you make any other Earth-shaking suggestions?
Given the quality of NPC combat ships, that is a bit of a non-starter - a ganker will tank them, pop the player and be jump out before their shields are even down. That the C&P system is broken, I think we can both agree upon, but you don't actually make any suggestion as to how this could be fixed.
Or maybe you meant this?
Very constructive...
Did you make any other Earth-shaking suggestions?
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