How do you feel about the new updates?

For those of us that live in the real world - great stream, with great reveals.. hyped for the new free update - amazing new content for an already amazing game

Thanks Frontier

I really can't stand that type of comment. You're not helping the dev team by always saying "thank you, your game is amazing, everything is great, so cool". It's always less constructive than saying "your game is great, BUT this doesn't work/I miss this/you could add/improve this".

No one can improve themselves if they don't know what could be better. It's not because people are complaining about things that PC is the worst game ever. You can still like the game, and thinking that some of the features are not that good.

I don't get why people get so mad when somebody else is not as hyped as they do.
 
I really can't stand that type of comment. You're not helping the dev team by always saying "thank you, your game is amazing, everything is great, so cool". It's always less constructive than saying "your game is great, BUT this doesn't work/I miss this/you could add/improve this".

No one can improve themselves if they don't know what could be better. It's not because people are complaining about things that PC is the worst game ever. You can still like the game, and thinking that some of the features are not that good.

I don't get why people get so mad when somebody else is not as hyped as they do.

Yes it's really sad to see this type of fanboyism. Sure you can love the game, we all do, but criticising everyone that has their own opinion or suggestions is just pathetic especially if they give arguments as to why they think it.
 

WingardiumLevicoaster

Volunteer Moderator
To give my cents in one word:

Frustrating !

- Benches are nice, but something that is a basic for such a game, like turning cars for a racing-game. Even if they did not animated them (like rides), it is something that should have been in the basic game, and nothing that is very hard to implement at a basic level.
- Water-coaster: Nice one, love it, some new stuff.
- Music-express: Well, never ever seen this tube-version, looks awfull to me as a tube, also track is too flat, in Germany we have "better" ones, with a seperated room in the back.

- No weather
- NO UGC ?????
- Nothing gamebreaking ?
- No better control for building / paths ?
- Still no way to use generic rides and do decoration by yourself with the possibility to build your ride in a different version (with no roof, ...)
- 3 new coasters and only 1 flatride ? Sell it as No Limits 3 ...
- No telling about future plans (I belive they dont have ones, that would match their silly update-politic / DLC / handling).


Overall again, very overhyped, as usual for them now, of course there are "tons" of stuff to come, but I am angry now about this merchandise talks, a ton is a mass if you count rides as gramm and little less if count as kilo, so if you count a ride / feature as ton we get exactly 1 single new feature. They used this phrases so often now, I am getting really *not allowed to write that word here* about that. Basically it says NOTHING like most of the stream yesterday ... Wait for more to come, ... later ... futher streams ... no we cant say anything about that ... Smart people can count, so why not use more realistic words like "about 20 new features" ?

I have enough guys, if this game is SO secret, take it back to your cave and dont release it.
So for me it seems to come to the end of supporting this game. Last update was hard, because of high price and lack of changing speed of Huntsman-ride., but it costs a third of the whole game ... Sorry Frontier, it does NOT look like your listening and again, the way you communicate is a total failure, but as always in the world, you cant win a fight against something wrong, so go on, but without my support in future until there is some interesting in the rest of that "tons of new features" comming at release of that anniversary update.
The team is way too small to get the job done, its like RCTW, they give you tons of pieces that can be made by community with UGC, but they lack of features that ONLY THEY can implement (because of missing game source-code). Wrong way Frontier.

Also I hated very much this applause-stuff. What a freaking show that was. Why praising for their work ? Did you also applaud at the backery ? Do you applaude to the bus-driver if he carried you home ? They all do their work and many of them may get less money than those frontier-developers for their job, always crying how hard it all was. You are sitting in a warm, closed rooms, with nice chairs, no healthy risks in your job, no risks in general, so what ? Its a job.

Also the audio-guy of the show has to be fired, this was one of the baddest streams ive ever seen. Audio too low, music too loud, wrong missmatched cutting / blending ... uahhh .. fire this guy.
For a planed show it was way to bad.

With the paid DLC for silly build-pieces you started the end of PC ... what a shame.

The applause was genuine and the atmosphere was very electric. It's a shame that didn't come across on camera. Seeing the light in people's eyes on Saturday as they discovering Planet Coaster for the first time, it's far from the end. It's the beginning. Also software development IS hard. It's stressful and high pressure. You work long hours for free. When you get home you are still thinking about work. It's brain draining. As a developer myself, I constantly have to make sure I look after myself. I have got home too tired to feed myself before. You have to constantly research and train, learning new things. I am very proud of what Frontier manage to acheieve.
 
Seems like everyone was expecting an expansion pack type of update when it really was just like the typical season update.

Getting the update for free was your first indication that it wasn't going to be that big of an update.

They said multiple times that they didn't show everything and more will be shown in other live streams
 
They said multiple times that they didn't show everything and more will be shown in other live streams

That´s what I don´t get. They threw away so much money for the Expo and then make this sub-par announcement there. Wasted potential, wasted money. And It´s not only about PC, this Expo could have offered much more.

Anyway, they can said it thousands of time, I will still give my critics on what we know so far. My critics is a feedback on what have been announced.
So far, it doesn´t stand to it´s initial hype.
 
For those of us that live in the real world - great stream, with great reveals.. hyped for the new free update - amazing new content for an already amazing game

Thanks Frontier

Did a moderator really just insult the majority of the posters here? Wow.
 
Yeah it was ok. I like everything they added, it all looks pretty great, it's just that they didn't change anything I've criticized the game for lacking or not doing right. Zero QoL, no real change to management, no proper career mode, nothing to make it feel like a breathing park in a real world. Just robot people that you poke with scenery until their happiness goes up, and robot staff that you poke with money until they stop being ❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎ at you. Otherwise the scenario editor looks like it might actually be pretty excellent, so I hope that goes well for them.

Though I must say this game is uninstalled at the mo, and will probably never get reinstalled unless it becomes an actual game, instead of a pretty sandbox.
 

WingardiumLevicoaster

Volunteer Moderator
That´s what I don´t get. They threw away so much money for the Expo and then make this sub-par announcement there. Wasted potential, wasted money. And It´s not only about PC, this Expo could have offered much more.

Anyway, they can said it thousands of time, I will still give my critics on what we know so far. My critics is a feedback on what have been announced.
So far, it doesn´t stand to it´s initial hype.

But the expo wasn't just about announcements.. It was also about the community. As well as celebrating Frontier's history. Introducing new players to the games (I met plenty of people fascinated by the game who had never seen it). It has many purposes. Plus recognition and praise to the devs in person is good for morale. If you feel respected for your work, you will perform better at work. All of these things produce a healthier work environment and ultimately a better product.
 
That´s what I don´t get. They threw away so much money for the Expo and then make this sub-par announcement there. Wasted potential, wasted money. And It´s not only about PC, this Expo could have offered much more.

Anyway, they can said it thousands of time, I will still give my critics on what we know so far. My critics is a feedback on what have been announced.
So far, it doesn´t stand to it´s initial hype.

Yup I agree they could have saved money and just done live streams, seems like they wanted to be like Google/Apple with their product launches and announcements.

If they had bigger updates or given each game a longer time slot like an hour each it would have been better
 
But the expo wasn't just about announcements.. It was also about the community. As well as celebrating Frontier's history. Introducing new players to the games (I met plenty of people fascinated by the game who had never seen it). It has many purposes. Plus recognition and praise to the devs in person is good for morale. If you feel respected for your work, you will perform better at work. All of these things produce a healthier work environment and ultimately a better product.

Yes, but announcements should have been major thing here. The only value for those who weren´t there and watched the live-stream. A possibility to reach more people with great announcements. Maybe it wasn´t only about it, but it´s a solid part of it and they didn´t handle it very well.
 
Yes, but announcements should have been major thing here. The only value for those who weren´t there and watched the live-stream. A possibility to reach more people with great announcements. Maybe it wasn´t only about it, but it´s a solid part of it and they didn´t handle it very well.

Exactly. And I can't remember them saying there is a lot more to come. The only thing they didn't announce was the fourth ride. They said they were going indepth on the announced features in the coming weeks during their livestreams.

Every time Frontier announces a new update, people claim that they only showed some parts of it, there is much more to come, except every time this turned out to be false.
 
They hyped this update so much that it sounded as if it would fundamentally change the game somehow. So when the update seems to be the smallest one out of all free updates... it's pretty disappointing.

My thing is too, and this is a common theme with Frontier and content reveals, they have a certain amount of time to show us new things, then they sit there and vamp for most of It, only to say that there isn't enough time to show all the new things... It tells me that hey don't have much else to show sadly.
 
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I think they've hyped us up too much.[sour]It's the smallest free update ever and for many people the scenario editor isn't a game changer,because they enjoy the creative side of the game[rolleyes].
 
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I agree with chems here... I often here that too.. They'll be more to come.. But theres not. At first I was excited about whats coming in this update. And yeah its still really nice... But I was highly disappointed about one thing..... A single flat ride.. Thats it.. Thats all we get in an anniversary update.? Not cool frontier. A day later and i am reading over these comments and I agree.. Its a lot of negativity... But I also agree it's well founded. This was supposed to be the big update.. The game changer. A chance to fix at least some of the issues and to fill in at least some of the things the game lacks. It was way overhyped and maybe part of that is we expected to much.. But I also feel like we got smoke blew up our butts. I keep thinking frontiers listening to us.. They even asked us as featured creators what we want to see. We gave them our answers and it seems a lot is ignored. I am blocked right now with Planet Coaster... Some of the things I want to do I cant because we dont have the things that can help me realize my plans. I wanted more rides in this and really thought we would get them this time. We didnt. The 4th ride is obviously a coaster of some sort.. And it will probably be cool. But i still cant create the kind of park i want with what we have. Ive waited a year for this and with every new update.. I get more and more disappointed. I really am starting to think they just dont care. And I dont think I am going to be able to get back into the game anymore with very few new things to play with.
 
Seems like everyone was expecting an expansion pack type of update when it really was just like the typical season update.

Gee, I wonder why anyone thought this update would be massive, afterall Frontier didn't hype it at all. They only called it the "anniversary update" so naturally it was gonna be the smallest one so far? /s

The typical season update had scenery/building pieces. And no real game changeing feature (like billboards, no collision...) has been announced for 1.4.

I'm pretty sure they said they're gonna show more detail, not more stuff. I'm pretty sure there will be some bug fixes and maybe some other minor things. But there's no reason to believe they will surprise us with all these new and cool features.

The applause was genuine and the atmosphere was very electric. It's a shame that didn't come across on camera. Seeing the light in people's eyes on Saturday as they discovering Planet Coaster for the first time, it's far from the end. It's the beginning. Also software development IS hard. It's stressful and high pressure. You work long hours for free. When you get home you are still thinking about work. It's brain draining. As a developer myself, I constantly have to make sure I look after myself. I have got home too tired to feed myself before. You have to constantly research and train, learning new things. I am very proud of what Frontier manage to acheieve.

Not sure what this has to do with OP. I have a demanding job as well. I work long hours and I don't get extra pay. So what? Don't we all?
In buisness you don't get extra credit for that. Customers care about the end result. That's what matters, not how you get there. "But this job IS hard" isn't a good excuse for overhyping and underdelivering (or anything for that matter).
Now in the case of PC the community IS being very appreciative and very patient. Not as patient as 11 months ago but we both know why.
If you're hinting at problems at Frontier like devs being overworked, underpaid and barely holding up under the pressure of their jobs those are issues the company needs to deal with (more staff, better pay, free therapy sessions...).
Maybe there are simlpy not enough people working on the game to get 4 new rides finished in time for Expo and that's why they showed only 3 of them. Whatever the reason, it won't make it look less embarrassing.
 
I agree with chems here... I often here that too.. They'll be more to come.. But theres not. At first I was excited about whats coming in this update. And yeah its still really nice... But I was highly disappointed about one thing..... A single flat ride.. Thats it.. Thats all we get in an anniversary update.? Not cool frontier. A day later and i am reading over these comments and I agree.. Its a lot of negativity... But I also agree it's well founded. This was supposed to be the big update.. The game changer. A chance to fix at least some of the issues and to fill in at least some of the things the game lacks. It was way overhyped and maybe part of that is we expected to much.. But I also feel like we got smoke blew up our butts. I keep thinking frontiers listening to us.. They even asked us as featured creators what we want to see. We gave them our answers and it seems a lot is ignored. I am blocked right now with Planet Coaster... Some of the things I want to do I cant because we dont have the things that can help me realize my plans. I wanted more rides in this and really thought we would get them this time. We didnt. The 4th ride is obviously a coaster of some sort.. And it will probably be cool. But i still cant create the kind of park i want with what we have. Ive waited a year for this and with every new update.. I get more and more disappointed. I really am starting to think they just dont care. And I dont think I am going to be able to get back into the game anymore with very few new things to play with.

I'm totally on your side,this game is lacking two things: improvements to existing things that the community wants and a lot of important real life rides[sad].I'm really sad,because i just can't build the park of my dreams with this game.[ugh]

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Gee, I wonder why anyone thought this update would be massive, afterall Frontier didn't hype it at all. They only called it the "anniversary update" so naturally it was gonna be the smallest one so far? /s

The typical season update had scenery/building pieces. And no real game changeing feature (like billboards, no collision...) has been announced for 1.4.

I'm pretty sure they said they're gonna show more detail, not more stuff. I'm pretty sure there will be some bug fixes and maybe some other minor things. But there's no reason to believe they will surprise us with all these new and cool features.



Not sure what this has to do with OP. I have a demanding job as well. I work long hours and I don't get extra pay. So what? Don't we all?
In buisness you don't get extra credit for that. Customers care about the end result. That's what matters, not how you get there. "But this job IS hard" isn't a good excuse for overhyping and underdelivering (or anything for that matter).
Now in the case of PC the community IS being very appreciative and very patient. Not as patient as 11 months ago but we both know why.
If you're hinting at problems at Frontier like devs being overworked, underpaid and barely holding up under the pressure of their jobs those are issues the company needs to deal with (more staff, better pay, free therapy sessions...).
Maybe there are simlpy not enough people working on the game to get 4 new rides finished in time for Expo and that's why they showed only 3 of them. Whatever the reason, it won't make it look less embarrassing.

We thought the update would be massive,because spoilersam said it himself.He said: there are big things coming in november[wink]
 
What I gather from the Twitch chat during this stream is that most people were tuning in for Elite: Dangerous content. I think Planet Coaster just wasn't allotted the time needed to make all the announcements as they were sandwiched in between the new franchise and the flagship franchise.
 
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What I gather from the Twitch chat during this stream is that most people were tuning in for Elite: Dangerous content. I think Planet Coaster just wasn't allotted the time needed to make all the announcements as they were sandwiched in between the new franchise and the flagship franchise.

I personally think they spent more time on elite dangerous and JWE than on planet coaster lately.That's why they didn't have any announcements[yesnod]
 
Yeah thectwitch chat was horrible... If anyone thinks the pc community is bad.. They should spend some time with the elite fans. Just Toxic. I was interested in Elite until yesterday. But i have no desire to play an online game fueled by bunch of... Well... Elitests and jerks. At one point they called Silv rudi and delady a bunch of nerds.. Im thinking really? We are all gamers here celebrating games. Such frathouse thinking like that is why i dont like games like call of duty..
 
We thought the update would be massive,because spoilersam said it himself.He said: there are big things coming in november[wink]
Yeah I know, therefore the 's' for sarcasm. [wink]

What I gather from the Twitch chat during this stream is that most people were tuning in for Elite: Dangerous content. I think Planet Coaster just wasn't allotted the time needed to make all the announcements as they were sandwiched in between the new franchise and the flagship franchise.
If only there was a Frontier event where they could've reserved enough time for such an announcement. Like a Frontier Expo or something... Hold on, isn't that what this was?! [wink]

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I personally think they spent more time on elite dangerous and JWE than on planet coaster lately.That's why they didn't have any announcements[yesnod]
Makes sense. Unfortunately that means there's no reason for this to change.
 
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