Perhaps. That is fair and more likely. It's not bad to stretch your wings though and it can be cool to see the variety people come up with. I would be fine with 20 myself, which might be a lot but I also feel like aviaries would be one of the last DLC so that Frontier would probably go bigger with it. Not 50 species big but decent is. Could be wishful thinking on my part though. They could always do aviaries and then build off of them with like, a nocturnal or tropical pack or wetlands.
How many birds should be added to the game??
- Thread starter Baryonix82
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If we got only 12 birds in an aviary pack. And let's say just two birds out of those 12 would represent the entire continent of Africa...that would just suck. Two birds to represent a continent is far too low to make it seem realistic. Zoos have tons of birds (and while I understand they can't give us 50) they need to do WAYYYYY better than just 2 measly birds per continent. I would hope for at least 18-20. But that's unlikely with frontiers dlc model.
As a first expansion pack I would be completely satisfied with selection of 14 birds but it would probably be something around 10 maybe.
Ultimately something around 20 new birds would be just enough to show the avian world biodiversity.
Ultimately something around 20 new birds would be just enough to show the avian world biodiversity.
- Vulture
- Bald eagle
- Secretary bird
- Victoria pigeon
- Mynah
- Pelican
- Toucan toco
- Indian Hornbill
- Argus
- Shoebill
- Hyacinth macaw
- Snowy owl
- Gray crowned crane
- Scarlet ibis
- Kookaburra
- Blue touraco
- Scarlet macaw
- Black swan
- Painted stork
- Greather bird of paradise
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Good picks. If they did go with a Myna, I feel like the Bali Myna would be a striking example that can be found in quite a few aviaries.
I really do hope for 8 birds at this point:
1. Toucan toco
2. Scarlet ibis
3. Hyacynth macaw
4. Bald eagle
5. Snowy owl
6. Shoebill
7. Pelican
New type of exibit for small birds: Bali myna
If by any chance we would get anything more a Indian hornbill would be an amazing addition.
But the best way I see it is to add a deluxe package to the original Aviary DLC with 3 or 4 extra birds payed separately.
Deluxe:
Gray crowned crane
Malayan argus
Indian hornbill
1. Toucan toco
2. Scarlet ibis
3. Hyacynth macaw
4. Bald eagle
5. Snowy owl
6. Shoebill
7. Pelican
New type of exibit for small birds: Bali myna
If by any chance we would get anything more a Indian hornbill would be an amazing addition.
But the best way I see it is to add a deluxe package to the original Aviary DLC with 3 or 4 extra birds payed separately.
Deluxe:
Gray crowned crane
Malayan argus
Indian hornbill
"Come visit my Asian and Australian zoos! Come see the zero birds we have"
"Or maybe stop by Africa and check out our one bird!"
IF it's only 8 birds, we are going to have some underwhelming zoo's to look forward to in the future!
Like that would really help keep people interested in Planet Zoo by adding ONE bird to an African section? ...I really, REALLY hope Frontier realizes how stupid that's going to be
"Or maybe stop by Africa and check out our one bird!"
IF it's only 8 birds, we are going to have some underwhelming zoo's to look forward to in the future!
Like that would really help keep people interested in Planet Zoo by adding ONE bird to an African section? ...I really, REALLY hope Frontier realizes how stupid that's going to be
It is what it is. I don’t see why we should expect anything more than the regular animal pack for birds?"Come visit my Asian and Australian zoos! Come see the zero birds we have"
"Or maybe stop by Africa and check out our one bird!"
IF it's only 8 birds, we are going to have some underwhelming zoo's to look forward to in the future!
Like that would really help keep people interested in Planet Zoo by adding ONE bird to an African section? ...I really, REALLY hope Frontier realizes how stupid that's going to be
I have never felt this game is incomplete without birds so I really think that adding 8 birds to it can be considered as a lot for the beginning
Snowy owl lives in Asia and we already have ostriches and flamingos from Africa and I don’t see why Pelican could not be from Australia
You’re being very condescending
Or perhaps they’ll release more birds after the first pack?
Many birds occur across continents so, even with “only” 8 birds it’d be easy to have 3 or 4 for each continent.
Hypothetically...we get 8 birds in a DLC.
And I have a zoo with 7 sections representing continents. (A lot of people have zoos that represent a continent, or sections representing continents)
Should I just put golden eagles in each of the following sections because they are found in Europe, Asia, Africa, North America and South America?
"Come visit Africa and see the golden eagles, or perhaps visit the steppes of Asia and see the golden eagle...maybe venture through our European section and see the glorious golden eagle"
Because in real life that zoo would suck.
I imagine in video game form that zoo would also suck....
I realize birds can be found accross multiple continents. People keep saying that...but in no way is that new information or helpful information.
My point still stands.
7 continents exist, if we only get 8 birds our zoo's won't look realistic....everyone agrees zoo's need birds to seem realistic. But adding ONE bird ex: a kookaburra to my Australian zoo won't suddenly make it seem like a realistic zoo....I'd argue it's going to point out just HOW much Planet Zoo is lacking in birds (and therefore lacking in realism).
However, IF 8 birds are just a starting off point and Frontier decides to charge us for more bird DLC's down the road that is a blatant CASH GRAB (let's severely limit the amount of animals per pack just so we can release multiple packs). And if other people are okay with those practices then to each their own, I can't speak for anyone else obviously.
I want people to remain interested in Planet Zoo at the end of the day. If you haven't played in a while, and let's say you have an Asian or European styled zoo. And then you recieve ONE bird that is found in Asia or ONE bird species that is found in Europe...well you aren't going to get back into playing Planet Zoo. That one bird isn't going to spark your interest in this game again.
And I have a zoo with 7 sections representing continents. (A lot of people have zoos that represent a continent, or sections representing continents)
Should I just put golden eagles in each of the following sections because they are found in Europe, Asia, Africa, North America and South America?
"Come visit Africa and see the golden eagles, or perhaps visit the steppes of Asia and see the golden eagle...maybe venture through our European section and see the glorious golden eagle"
Because in real life that zoo would suck.
I imagine in video game form that zoo would also suck....
I realize birds can be found accross multiple continents. People keep saying that...but in no way is that new information or helpful information.
My point still stands.
7 continents exist, if we only get 8 birds our zoo's won't look realistic....everyone agrees zoo's need birds to seem realistic. But adding ONE bird ex: a kookaburra to my Australian zoo won't suddenly make it seem like a realistic zoo....I'd argue it's going to point out just HOW much Planet Zoo is lacking in birds (and therefore lacking in realism).
However, IF 8 birds are just a starting off point and Frontier decides to charge us for more bird DLC's down the road that is a blatant CASH GRAB (let's severely limit the amount of animals per pack just so we can release multiple packs). And if other people are okay with those practices then to each their own, I can't speak for anyone else obviously.
I want people to remain interested in Planet Zoo at the end of the day. If you haven't played in a while, and let's say you have an Asian or European styled zoo. And then you recieve ONE bird that is found in Asia or ONE bird species that is found in Europe...well you aren't going to get back into playing Planet Zoo. That one bird isn't going to spark your interest in this game again.
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i get that, but having 8 animals in a pack, planning to release more down the line really is not a cashgrab, its just how the game worked so far and still will.Hypothetically...we get 8 birds in a DLC.
And I have a zoo with 7 sections representing continents. (A lot of people have zoos that represent a continent, or sections representing continents)
Should I just put golden eagles in each of the following sections because they are found in Europe, Asia, Africa, North America and South America?
"Come visit Africa and see the golden eagles, or perhaps visit the steppes of Asia and see the golden eagle...maybe venture through our European section and see the glorious golden eagle"
Because in real life that zoo would suck.
I imagine in video game form that zoo would also suck....
I realize birds can be found accross multiple continents. People keep saying that...but in no way is that new information or helpful information.
My point still stands.
7 continents exist, if we only get 8 birds our zoo's won't look realistic....everyone agrees zoo's need birds to seem realistic. But adding ONE bird ex: a kookaburra to my Australian zoo won't suddenly make it seem like a realistic zoo....I'd argue it's going to point out just HOW much Planet Zoo is lacking in birds (and therefore lacking in realism).
However, IF 8 birds are just a starting off point and Frontier decides to charge us for more bird DLC's down the road that is a blatant CASH GRAB (let's severely limit the amount of animals per pack just so we can release multiple packs). And if other people are okay with those practices then to each their own, I can't speak for anyone else obviously.
I want people to remain interested in Planet Zoo at the end of the day. If you haven't played in a while, and let's say you have an Asian or European styled zoo. And then you recieve ONE bird that is found in Asia or ONE bird species that is found in Europe...well you aren't going to get back into playing Planet Zoo. That one bird isn't going to spark your interest in this game again.
its just the logical and natural conclusion of both the dlc system and the fact that birds will props be more expensive to make then your normal habitat animal, atleast at first.
So getting a nice starting roster and then 1 or 2 in each following animal pack sounds like a good deal to me, especally now where every continent is atleast present in habitat animals.
True, if you have areas for every continent then you’d only have 1 dedicated to each continent after the first pack but the roster would likely expand in future DLC.
Your Australian zoo is already unrealistic, since there are so few Australian animals in the game presently.
I don’t agree it’s a “cash grab” - on your argument every DLC so far and all those yet to be released (including the hypothetical aviaries pack) is a cash grab since those animals were ‘left out’ of the starting line-up.
This contradicts your earlier agreement that birds can represent multiple continents. If you have an Asian or a European zoo, you could easily have 3-4 birds even if the initial pack has 8 species.I want people to remain interested in Planet Zoo at the end of the day. If you haven't played in a while, and let's say you have an Asian or European styled zoo. And then you recieve ONE bird that is found in Asia or ONE bird species that is found in Europe...well you aren't going to get back into playing Planet Zoo. That one bird isn't going to spark your interest in this game again.
"True, if you have areas for every continent then you’d only have 1 [bird] dedicated to each continent after the first pack but the roster would likely expand in future DLC."
So you just said exactly my point...I do have areas for each continent.
So, having 8 birds and using 3-4 of them to represent each continent would not work.
I don't want to use the same bird over, and over, and over, and over just because PZ limited our choices to eight species.
Example: My Asian, European, North American and African areas ALL have to have golden eagles just because planet zoo didnt give us anymore species to work with. What an awful and stupid idea.
So you say there is a "first pack" I say where is your proof there are multiple aviary packs coming? You made that up lol...we don't know if we are getting ONE pack yet you claim it will expand after the first aviary pack....but provide no evidence.
To further YOUR point (the only point I agree with) Australia is completely underrepresented, same with Europe....those sections of my zoo look barren. Planet Zoo desperately needs to add more Australian and European animals to make them as well represented as areas like Africa and Asia.
So you just said exactly my point...I do have areas for each continent.
So, having 8 birds and using 3-4 of them to represent each continent would not work.
I don't want to use the same bird over, and over, and over, and over just because PZ limited our choices to eight species.
Example: My Asian, European, North American and African areas ALL have to have golden eagles just because planet zoo didnt give us anymore species to work with. What an awful and stupid idea.
So you say there is a "first pack" I say where is your proof there are multiple aviary packs coming? You made that up lol...we don't know if we are getting ONE pack yet you claim it will expand after the first aviary pack....but provide no evidence.
To further YOUR point (the only point I agree with) Australia is completely underrepresented, same with Europe....those sections of my zoo look barren. Planet Zoo desperately needs to add more Australian and European animals to make them as well represented as areas like Africa and Asia.
As much as we can lol. I’d love a 20 bird expansion but I’m expecting something like 12 or just 8
Prior to the South America Pack the only South American animals were exhibit animals. Same with Australia.
Your point makes no sense.
As for "cash grab", well, duh? They aren't making this game or its DLC out of the goodness of their hearts, they're a business. If you don't want to contribute to the "cash grab" then stop playing and stop buying any and all DLC at all. They've already excluded high-profile animals from the game with the expectation that they can headline DLC, such as the polar bear, jaguar, kangaroo, koala, and so on.
Yes, as I said, I was agreeing with you on this point.
Yes. If you are representing all continents separately.
Where do you have proof that only one pack is coming? Obviously this is all speculation but, based on past patterns it seems likely that, if we get aviaries, birds will be released in future packs. There is certainly no reason to think it would be the only pack with birds.
Yes
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Well there was only ONE Arctic pack.
ONE South America pack.
ONE Australia pack.
ONE Southeast Asia pack.
ONE Africa pack.
ONE Aquatic pack.
ONE North America pack.
You say, there is "no reason to think the [Bird pack] would be the only pack with birds."
Yes
I'm not good at math...but I think I just counted seven reasons so far to believe we aren't getting multiple Bird packs
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My point was if we get 8 birds.
Let's say:
Bald Eagle (NA,EU,AS)
Golden Eagle (NA,SA,AF,EU,AS)
Macaw (SA)
Toucan (SA)
Hornbill (AS/AF)
Bali Mynah (AS)
California Condor (NA)
Cockatoo (OC)
And I have an Australian region of my zoo, only cockatoos would fit...My point was multiple continents are still VERY underrepresented with only 8 birds.
I get Bald Eagles are found on multiple continents
I don't want them in multiple areas of the same zoo...that is beyond dumb and unrealistic.And with no proof...and the past history of DLC releases I see no evidence we will get multiple Aviary DLC's...
It seems like people are losing interest in this game. An Aviary DLC that is well done could keep people interested in this game for a long time.
If my point still doesn't make sense please explain, or DM me...I don't understand where the confusion is stemming from? (it can be a friendly discussion)
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