I'm so glad I put win 10 on a second drive. It won't be used again till support for Win 7 dies.
General / Off-Topic How many ppl have already dumped windows 10 from their computer
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Never took the bait
Once I understood that it's primary purpose was data collection on what you do on your PC, it wasn't a hard decision to make.
I may someday build a gaming rig and install it if there's a benefit, but for now my trusty old Win 7 machine works flawlessly. It never crashes and never gets any malware. Runs tons of applications I use and allows me to run my business from home and still game with ED. A good old Core i7-950 with 24 GB ram, 1TB SSD, and a GTX-980Ti
I doubt I'll ever give this up until I get a critical hardware failure. Even when I build it's replacement, it will serve as my backup PC for many years to come.
There's really no reason to upgrade from Win 7 unless you really enjoy having your PC report on everything you do to MS
Yes, you can kill the reporting, but you'll have to be sure that each upgrade doesn't just bypass what you did in the past. Everyone sees how willing most users are to just surrender their privacy to Google and they want in on the data collection party.
So foolish...
Once I understood that it's primary purpose was data collection on what you do on your PC, it wasn't a hard decision to make.
I may someday build a gaming rig and install it if there's a benefit, but for now my trusty old Win 7 machine works flawlessly. It never crashes and never gets any malware. Runs tons of applications I use and allows me to run my business from home and still game with ED. A good old Core i7-950 with 24 GB ram, 1TB SSD, and a GTX-980Ti
I doubt I'll ever give this up until I get a critical hardware failure. Even when I build it's replacement, it will serve as my backup PC for many years to come.
There's really no reason to upgrade from Win 7 unless you really enjoy having your PC report on everything you do to MS
Yes, you can kill the reporting, but you'll have to be sure that each upgrade doesn't just bypass what you did in the past. Everyone sees how willing most users are to just surrender their privacy to Google and they want in on the data collection party.
So foolish...
Likewise never bothered. I have Win8 on the gaming machine (running mostly in Win7 mode); but Win 7 on the laptop and even running an older machine with XP.
Not being an expert on these things (and being one-sidedly cynical about corporate practice generally), is there anything I should know about Win 8?
Not being an expert on these things (and being one-sidedly cynical about corporate practice generally), is there anything I should know about Win 8?
Dumped within 10 minutes of installing, after the debacle of "downgrading" back to 8.1 decided to skip for the foreseeable future. Glad I did as part of my job I have encountered well over 100 issues with up / downgrading to 10. Wait until it is finished (i.e. costs money) before this you are merely an unpaid software tester for Microsoft.
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Robert Maynard
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Microsoft seem to be implementing a policy of forced O/S upgrade to permit use of the latest CPUs:
http://arstechnica.co.uk/informatio...ers-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/
http://arstechnica.co.uk/informatio...ers-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/
I have Windows 7 pro 64 on my main SSD and I'm very satisfied. However I installed Windows 10 pro 64 on another SSD ...
Hopefully in another 18 months Win 10 will be worth using.
Got W10 when I bought my i7 machine.
It's been a compete breeze frankly. Fast, neat and not problems. For me, it's the upgrade from XP that the others should have been.
I did upgrade to W10 on the laptop. Frankly, that hasn't been as good. The camera doesn't work. Whenever there's an update, the machine is out of action for several hours. The Laptop's hardware is just not good enough really.
It's been a compete breeze frankly. Fast, neat and not problems. For me, it's the upgrade from XP that the others should have been.
I did upgrade to W10 on the laptop. Frankly, that hasn't been as good. The camera doesn't work. Whenever there's an update, the machine is out of action for several hours. The Laptop's hardware is just not good enough really.
I got Skylake PC components for Christmas so I didn't really have much choice if I wanted to use the USB3 on my motherboard. The UEFI startup on the motherboard also meant Win10 was the path of least resistance for clean installation. The way I did it was:
Install Win7. Update, update, update.
Updated router firewall with the IP addresses and domains for MS telemetry.
Accept Win10 installation. Unchecked every privacy toggle.
Update completed.
Clean install from media creation tool. Unchecked every privacy toggle.
Installed program to disable and block all telemetry and reporting back to MS.
Customise HOSTS file.
Updates, drivers.
Ready.
The PC has worked flawlessly since being built. No crashes, running cool, and CPUID is showing all voltages, fans and temperatures are looking after themselves very nicely. In that respect, my PC is vindication of what that Arstechnica article was saying.
I do periodically check my router firewall logs to see if an update enabled telemetry, but no attempts have shown since I disabled them.
The ONLY problem I've had was that Skype wouldn't work properly, probably because of the MS server blocks. That's no great loss.
Install Win7. Update, update, update.
Updated router firewall with the IP addresses and domains for MS telemetry.
Accept Win10 installation. Unchecked every privacy toggle.
Update completed.
Clean install from media creation tool. Unchecked every privacy toggle.
Installed program to disable and block all telemetry and reporting back to MS.
Customise HOSTS file.
Updates, drivers.
Ready.
The PC has worked flawlessly since being built. No crashes, running cool, and CPUID is showing all voltages, fans and temperatures are looking after themselves very nicely. In that respect, my PC is vindication of what that Arstechnica article was saying.
I do periodically check my router firewall logs to see if an update enabled telemetry, but no attempts have shown since I disabled them.
The ONLY problem I've had was that Skype wouldn't work properly, probably because of the MS server blocks. That's no great loss.
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Suspect it's a geek thing
It's a nice OS, but it has some very irritating foibles, the greatest of which is the wake timers. Win10 gives itself the ability to wake the system from sleep in order to apply certain updates. In theory it should wake up, apply updates, then go back to sleep, but my Thrustmaster HOTAS keeps it from sleeping (known issue with that joystick driver). I'm not unplugging my HOTAS every time I finish playing, so I regularly go into my office and find that the system has been sitting there turned on, burning electricity, for several hours.
You can go into Task Scheduler and disable the wake timers, but Win10 turns them back on with every update, even if I disable all wake timers globally. It's infuriating. I don't want my PC waking itself up under any circumstances, and I particularly don't want Windows changing my settings.
Aside from that it's great. Fast and stable, and it has quite a few functional enhancements over Win7. But they really need to fix that wake timer issue.
You can go into Task Scheduler and disable the wake timers, but Win10 turns them back on with every update, even if I disable all wake timers globally. It's infuriating. I don't want my PC waking itself up under any circumstances, and I particularly don't want Windows changing my settings.
Aside from that it's great. Fast and stable, and it has quite a few functional enhancements over Win7. But they really need to fix that wake timer issue.
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Robert Maynard
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Are there no BIOS settings that you could change to stop this?
I'm looking into that. So far I've just been making adjustments within Windows.
