General / Off-Topic How many ppl have already dumped windows 10 from their computer

Porina

Porina
Shadowdancer said:
I hope you are aware that mainstream support for 7SP1 ended just about a year ago…
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Correct, but extended support still has near enough 4 years to go. When that hits, that'll be the nail in the coffin for Win7. Extended support essentially means no new stuff for the OS other than security patches. Which is fine.

Personally my biggest beef with Win10 is the forced Windows Updates (my PCs run 24/7 and I can't afford them to reboot when MS wants it to, so I disable WU totally outside patch Tuesday). UI differences are still providing some pain but that's standard for any major new version of any software.

Systems at home are a 50/50 mixture of Win10 and Win7. For the uses they have I don't see any need to update more Win7 boxes to Win10. They will be obsolete by the time Win7 is unsupported.
 

Dweezil_Moon

Dweezil_Moon
jabokai said:
but I'm not even sure why I do it! I don't have anything to hide, I don't really care about my "trivial" data, so why bother? I don't really know.
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Apart for other reasons, most of which can be read about in dystopic scifi stories (I look at you, G.Orwell), you might also want to look for "The Fappening" on wikipedia. Just because Microsoft itself might not use the data, the fact that it is stored in a centralized place is worrying enough. Break and leaks *DO* happen.
I hope this helped remind you why you do care. Sadly it gets more and more difficult to avoid giving away everything about you without being either treated like a potential criminal or a terrorist if you need commercial software.

To get back to the original question : I upgraded from Win7 pro, turned off all the snooping functions, started Win10, turned off all the snooping functions which automagically had been turned back on again, had to hunt for some powershell code to enable the start menu which, unlike the snooping options, hadn't turned itself on at all, then found out that I couldn't live-switch to the Oculus Rift 0.5 runtime anymore (yes .. I know 0.8 works with steam, but it is by far not as smooth framerate wise as 0.5), reverted back to Win7Pro and the constant nag screen. The only good bit about the nag screen is that it reminds me that Microsoft doesn't care one bit about the well being of its users and only sees profit.

Side note: there is at least one Win7 "important" update I can NOT apply as it gets reverted everytime in a 40mn process ... I would really hate to see that happening with Windows10 as I, as a lowly non-corporate user, would not be able to blacklist the package. So much for forced updates.
 
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Surfinjo

Surfinjo
I've just bought a new Asus Laptop, partly because my old laptop was so unreliable but also it was a really good price.

It came bundled with loads of extra software, including McAfee. It's taken me the last 24 hours to get rid of it all.

I was thinking Asus hardly need the extra bucks they get from including all that junk, but then again, Asus probably work on the assumption that there is no bad profit.
 

StuF

StuF
Got it running on my top spec iMac so I can play Horizons - works perfectly and I am very happy
Have upgraded Win 8 to 10 on my wifes laptop and she likes the interface
Dont really understand what all the issues some people have with it?
 

Steve50

Steve50
Asp Explorer said:
Just wait until the next-gen CPU's refuse to boot anything but Windows 10 :D

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/0...join_in_perfect_harmony_to_praise_windows_10/
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Looks like I won't be upgrading my CPU soon then, or if I do I'll be moving to linux.

Win 7 I like a lot, 10 I'll never install (even though its CONSTANTLY nagging me to do so) I think Microsoft have turned into something quite repugnant and vile in the last couple of years. Win 10? Shove it where monkeys shove their nuts.

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StuF said:
Got it running on my top spec iMac so I can play Horizons - works perfectly and I am very happy
Have upgraded Win 8 to 10 on my wifes laptop and she likes the interface
Dont really understand what all the issues some people have with it?
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Security mate, or more importantly the lack of..
 

Porina

Porina
The future CPU support thing for Win7 is rather confusing, since most tech news sites each put their spin on it. Best case scenario, you can still install Win7 on it, and get the right drivers from the chipset manufacturer. New features of those CPUs might not be supported. Existing features continue to be supported. Worst case: no driver support. No boot. So I think it will be as much down to the level of support from Intel/AMD as it is from MS.
 

jabokai

jabokai
Steve50 said:
Security mate, or more importantly the lack of..
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You mean privacy, rather than security. At the lowest settings, without even delving into third party tools and registry hacks, it's not reporting back anything that would threaten your security.

I'm all for scepticism, and caution, but let's not let too much FUD cloud the facts. ;)
 

xondk

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Personally I think people are forgetting that the vast majority of apps and whatnot collect this similar information in order to work with many of their advanced functions, without being able to collect that information they can't work as advertised, with cortana for example, not that I can get cortana in Denmark yet or need it, or that I need many many of the other features that take advantage of the information gathering.

My experience with windows 10 is great, performance wise and compatibility wise there has been near no issues, other then the whole weirdness with windows drivers and such, which isn't really that bad.

I'm enjoying windows 10, yeah I would wish I had to opt-in on the whole thing with what windows 10 shares and whatnot, but I mean it is only after the whole windows 10 matter, that people have begun becoming aware of a lot of these issues with other services.

Take Siri for iPhones, that needs access to everything in the same manner as cortana in order to have the functions it does, yet apparently people aren't in uproar about that?

So yeah, it caused a stir sure, but considering what programs and such we are using, it is probably one of the smaller things that we should worry about, since microsoft clearly doesn't want to get on their users bad side, and listen to the complaints.
 

Dweezil_Moon

Dweezil_Moon
xondk said:
So yeah, it caused a stir sure, but considering what programs and such we are using, it is probably one of the smaller things that we should worry about, since microsoft clearly doesn't want to get on their users bad side, and listen to the complaints.
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Honestly, injecting an unblockable nag-popup reminiscent of malware into the userexperience of Windows7 to push people to become beta testers doesn't really sound like they listen to complaints nor that they actually care about their users.
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
Robert Maynard said:
Some of us already do - SSDs are a form of EEPROM, after all.... ;)
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That occurred to me as well. But the ability to continually over-right the code does make it somewhat more insecure than even EEPROMs.

The major disadvantage of ROM based code is that errors left in at the composing stage will all need to be ironed out before the ROM is marketed. Either that or millions of ROMs will need to be repeatedly re-issued.

We essentially are beta testers. Once the beta testing stage is passed, there seems to be little reason to keep an OS going, such as XP and we are all forced to move on to the next big thing.
 

Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
Surfinjo said:
That occurred to me as well. But the ability to continually over-right the code does make it somewhat more insecure than even EEPROMs.

The major disadvantage of ROM based code is that errors left in at the composing stage will all need to be ironed out before the ROM is marketed. Either that or millions of ROMs will need to be repeatedly re-issued.
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Just like distributing the O/S on a DVD - once it is gold then any later changes will need to be made as updates to the live system.... ;)
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
So, in the future, don’t expect to be able to run Windows 7, for example, on the newest 6th Generation Intel Core “Skylake” processors that are shipping in systems today. Maybe more importantly, future processors will be supported on Windows 10 only. Some of those future chips include Intel’s upcoming “Kaby Lake” silicon, Qualcomm’s upcoming “8996” chip, and AMD’s upcoming “Bristol Ridge” processor, Myerson wrote.

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Luckily, the new policy won’t be enacted immediately. Through July 17, 2017, computers using Intel’s Skylake chip will be supported on Windows 7 and 8.1. But Microsoft is quick to add that “during the 18-month support period, these systems should be upgraded to Windows 10 to continue receiving support after the period ends.”

After that date, only the most critical Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 security updates will be addressed for these configurations, Microsoft said.
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http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/01/18/windows-10-will-only-work-on-newest-pcs-says-microsoft.html
 

dangerousbeans

dangerousbeans
have to admit I'm happy with win 10, nothing bad to say about it, apart from the "dodgy" automated updates that go on without any info about what they change/do every few days.
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Well at least one W10 update has killed my nasty little tablet.

It's a stinky quad Atom, 1Gb RAM, 16Gb SSD abomination - with not enough free space for the mandatory 1511 update. The installer chokes on the drive with only 4Gb free, and grumbles until I feed it a 64Gb sd card. It then spends ages downloading, preparing for the install, reboots, complains about not enough free space, and the SD card disappears :)

Delightful :)
 
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